OVER 50 SALE

[NOTABIKER]

is it legal to buy a relic and take it home right away with a old bolt rifle. i bought a bolt rifle from a small gun store 107 years old and still had to do everything you do with a new gun. what is the law on this.

[af240z]

Private party, yes, cash and carry. Ffl dealer has to do dros regardless

[chknlyps2]

1899 and newer needs to DROS from a dealer, if there is clear proof that it was made in 1898 or before it is antique and not considered a firearm.

[microwaveguy]

The only legal way to cash and carry C&R in this state from a FFL01 is to have a FFL03 and a COE. Otherwise they are treated like any other firearm.

[Wernher von Browning]

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Antique_Firearms

(Don't see anything in there that explicitly says FFLs must, or need not, do the full-on DROS).

[Vlad 11]

Antiques may be technically exempt, but most FFLs dont care and will DROS

It needs to be older than 114 years anyway

[morrcarr67]

The only legal way to cash and carry C&R in this state from a FFL01 is to have a FFL03 and a COE. Otherwise they are treated like any other firearm.

Don't forget even with the 03/COE combo you will still need to DROS and pay state fee.

[littlejake]

Antiques may be technically exempt, but most FFLs dont care and will DROS

It needs to be older than 114 years anyway

Bingo! and it was only 107 years old; ergo C&R. So, from a dealer one cannot use the >50 year old long gun private party exemption that was codified in section 12078 (t)(2) -- old PC numbers. Dealer must DROS and 10 day wait unless the buyer has both a C&R plus a COE to exempt from the 10 day wait.

[harmoniums]

what about a private sale of an antique pistol?
I've got a revolver for sale that was made before Jan 1st 1899.
Its a 32 S&W that will fire metallic cartridges.
I know federally I'm OK to sell it as a non-firearm, but does it require a DROS in CA?

[saki302]

Private sale of ANY antique pre-1899 is cash and carry. Period.

In the old days with the long 21 day wait, I remember C&R rifles could be taken home the same day. Now EVERYTHING post 1898 from a dealer is a 10 day wait.

-Dave

[NOTABIKER]

somebody posted about getting a mosin at the gun show 2 weeks ago and it was cash and carry. ?

[Mssr. Eleganté]

somebody posted about getting a mosin at the gun show 2 weeks ago and it was cash and carry. ?

You can currently still buy a 50+ year old C&R long gun cash and carry from a private party at a gun show in California. Some sellers at gun shows are just private parties and not licensed dealers.