Saw Some Interesting C&R Guns in Rome Today

[Mike A]

That Vetterli wasn't really for "special forces" as we use the term now. Italian short rifles are termed "truppi speciali" rifles because they were meant for technical troops whose main function wasn't as infantry--pioneer/combat engineers, artillery gunners and later machine gunners and bicycle troops. The closest they got to being issued to our kind of "special forces" was their use by "Alpini"--elite mountain units.

Italy's main small arms problems seemed to me to stem from national poverty, not the inability to innovate. And the private sector was MUCH better at innovation. SOUND FAMILIAR?

[CSACANNONEER]

I wonder why the pin fire muzzle is threaded --

Yea, it is a revolver and, it was manufactured decades before Maxim made his first surpressors.

[empirearms]

sad to say . . .

I don't know what Italian gun export laws are, but the FFL03 will help with import.

The only C&R firearms that can be imported by an FFL03 must be classified as a curio & relic *AND* must be a commercial (non-military) firearm only.

Sadly, all military firearms MUST be imported by a class 07 licensed importer.

[Capybara]

Was at the Vatican Museums today. Strangely, no guns (kidding).

Have not had time to seek out a Rome gun shop but perhaps I will tomorrow, last day here is tomorrow.

[furyous68]

Yea, it is a revolver and, it was manufactured decades before Maxim made his first surpressors.

Maybe it ended up in the hands of a mafia assassin

Though, those threads seem pretty coarse for a suppressor... which makes me think it was done in someone's basement/ garage... in Sicily

[furyous68]

Was at the Vatican Museums today. Strangely, no guns (kidding).

Have not had time to seek out a Rome gun shop but perhaps I will tomorrow, last day here is tomorrow.

Don't the Swiss Guard have a museum there? Might see some fine weaponry if they do, including some pristine K31's

See here: http://www.italymag.co.uk/italy-feat...r-swiss-guards

[bohoki]

and many museums have a policy where if it falls off, they won't repair it.

I know is the sad case for Heracles' junk at The Getty

thats a damn shame someone should send thems some 3m command adhesive strips

[POLICESTATE]

Special Forces Infantry Musket, Model 1870 Vetterli

Okay Special Forces? I have got to learn more about these hardcore 1870's badd asses!

[CSACANNONEER]

Maybe it ended up in the hands of a mafia assassin

Though, those threads seem pretty coarse for a suppressor... which makes me think it was done in someone's basement/ garage... in Sicily

It's still a revolver. Surpressors do not do much good on most revolvers.

[Spiggy]

Okay Special Forces? I have got to learn more about these hardcore 1870's badd asses!

These are the soldiers that didn't fight in skirmish lines

[furyous68]

It's still a revolver. Surpressors do not do much good on most revolvers.

I didn't say he was an intelligent assassin

[dogfood]

in re: threaded revolver barrel...maybe it's not for a silencer at all but some sort of "loudener"