C&R rookie

[Dont_Shoot_im_Chinese]

I'm interested in rifles over 50 years of age and all original. How can I buy the firearm if the previous owner DRO'ed the rifle over ten years ago and the rifle is now over 50 years of age?

[Quiet]

I'm interested in rifles over 50 years of age and all original. How can I buy the firearm if the previous owner DRO'ed the rifle over ten years ago and the rifle is now over 50 years of age?

As long as both you and the seller are CA residents and the C&R long gun (rifle/shotgun/other) is 50 or more years old, you can legally transfer the firearm via cash & carry and the transfer does not require the use of a CA FFL dealer. [PC 27965]



Penal Code 27965
(a) If all of the following requirements are satisfied, Section 27545 does not apply to the sale, loan, or transfer of a firearm:
(1) The sale, loan, or transfer is infrequent, as defined in Section 16730.
(2) The firearm is not a handgun.
(3) The firearm is a curio or relic manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date but is not a replica, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, or its successor.
(b) This section shall remain in effect only until January 1, 2014, and as of that date is repealed, unless a later enacted statute, that is enacted before January 1, 2014, deletes or extends that date.

[littlejake]

As long as both you and the seller are CA residents and the C&R long gun (rifle/shotgun/other) is 50 or more years old, you can legally transfer the firearm via cash & carry and the transfer does not require the use of a CA FFL dealer. [PC 27965]



Penal Code 27965
(a) If all of the following requirements are satisfied, Section 27545 does not apply to the sale, loan, or transfer of a firearm:
(1) The sale, loan, or transfer is infrequent, as defined in Section 16730.
(2) The firearm is not a handgun.
(3) The firearm is a curio or relic manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date but is not a replica, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, or its successor.
(b) This section shall remain in effect only until January 1, 2014, and as of that date is repealed, unless a later enacted statute, that is enacted before January 1, 2014, deletes or extends that date.

Get 'em while they're hot!

[PEZHEAD265]

If the picture of that Yugo SKS is the rifle you want that rifle is a C&R but not 50 years old and you can not do a FTF transfer.That rifle has to be DROS

[morrcarr67]

That plays no part (DROS) at all. What type of rifle? Does it show C&R eligible on BATFE? Not all guns are on the C&R list. If all is good, do a FTF and not worry. Be sure to read the BS that BATFE sent you or go online and study the does and don'ts.

What does that matter? The OP said the gun is 50 years old. ALL guns become C&R when the turn 50 and no listing by the BATF is needed.

A regulation implementing Federal firearms laws, 27 CFR Section 478.11, defines C&R firearms as those "which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons."

To be recognized as C&R items, 478.11 specifies that firearms must fall within one of the following categories:

1. Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas of such firearms;
2. Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and
3. Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event.

However, if you wish for a classification of your particular firearm under categories (b) or (c) above and wish your item to be listed, you may submit the weapon to the Firearms Technology Branch (FTB) for a formal classification.

Please note that firearms regulated under the National Firearms Act (NFA) may be classified as C&R items, but still may be subject to the provisions of the NFA. If your C&R item is an NFA firearm (e.g., Winchester Trappers) and you desire removal from the NFA status, you must submit it to FTB for evaluation and a formal classification.

[PEZHEAD265]

What does that matter? The OP said the gun is 50 years old. ALL guns become C&R when the turn 50 and no listing by the BATF is needed.

He is also showing a 59/66 yugo that is C&R but not 50 years old.A C&R gun does not have to be 50 years old but 50 year old guns or older are C&R if they are on the list or not.In CA the gun has to be 50 years old to be face to face transfered [FTF].The OP shoild be aware of these loopholes in the laws.

[chknlyps2]

He is also showing a 59/66 yugo that is C&R but not 50 years old.A C&R gun does not have to be 50 years old but 50 year old guns or older are C&R if they are on the list or not.In CA the gun has to be 50 years old to be face to face transfered [FTF].The OP shoild be aware of these loopholes in the laws.

I think that pic is just in his sig line

[Dont_Shoot_im_Chinese]

That Yugo is just a signature picture. I do want to look at a sks but I don't have a FFL 03 license and I hear it takes weeks to get

[chknlyps2]

That Yugo is just a signature picture. I do want to look at a sks but I don't have a FFL 03 license and I hear it takes weeks to get

But the sooner you send off for it the sooner you get it.

[SKSer45]

But the sooner you send off for it the sooner you get it.

yup but get in now before 2014 rolls up.

[Lucky Scott]

Buy a russian SKS, it is over 50 years old and you can buy it face to face with no DROS.

[SKSer45]

Buy a russian SKS, it is over 50 years old and you can buy it face to face with no DROS.

To late I bought them all

[Dont_Shoot_im_Chinese]

I don't have a c&r 03 FFL license so I don't think I can do that

[PEZHEAD265]

I don't have a c&r 03 FFL license so I don't think I can do that

As of now you don't need a C&R license to buy any rifle FTF as long as it is 50 years old.After 2014 the laws are going to change.Apply for your C&R license now and buy all the 50 year old rifles that you can FTF intil it comes.When you receive it buy rifles on line.You can buy out of state pistols and you can mail them back to your self [maybe carry back] and then pay the DOJ fee.

[Abra Philippines]

We got a little over a year to cash and carry C&R rifles!