BUYING C&R GUNS AT A ARIZONA GUNSHOWS

[ih8ca]

I am gonna be getting my C&R license soon. I am planning on taking a fieldtrip to AZ for JG Sales and possible a gunshow. Does anybody have experience buying at a AZ gunshow with a C&R license from a CA resident?

[morrcarr67]

I am gonna be getting my C&R license soon. I am planning on taking a fieldtrip to AZ for JG Sales and possible a gunshow. Does anybody have experience buying at a AZ gunshow with a C&R license from a CA resident?

I do not.

But if you set up your C&R with J&G before you go that will help.

Why you ask?

J&G Sales usually sets up at the Cross Roads of the West show in Phoenix. If you find a C&R somewhere other than J&G's booth and they are giving you grief you could ask them if they would be willing to talk to the guys over at J&G about the deal.

The guys at J&G are really good and would probably help you get what you're looking for.

[TS77]

Just an FYI, J&G will 95% beat any gun-show price for what they carry, finding the secondary-market items at the gun-show is the fun part

[ih8ca]

I am gonna go to the gunshow and jg sales. I really don't know what I am looking for. I just want to know private sellers attitude toward a CA C&R holder.

[hifiguns]

I tried to buy (with my C&R license) at the Phoenix gunshow about three years ago. No one would sell to me, including the J&G sales booth at the show. You need an AZ drivers license. Gun stores in AZ other than J&G may sell to you, but they might not.

[Warrior King]

Before you go check out Backpage.com

For Arizona Backpage lists a lot of gun including C & R's for private sale. Prices seem to be good also compared to CA.

You might need to do a little persuasive work on the phone to accept your 03 license, but many private sellers in CA do not understand that C &R is cash and carry when buying within your state.

If you find something you like arrange to have them meet you at J&G to verify you 03 is valid for out of state purchase, and give them the option to do FFL transfer to get them there.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/buyselltrade/

[Irish Gunner]

My understanding of AZ law is that face to face PPT is pretty much unregulated. Having said that I doubt you will have any problem with used C&R guns. Importing said guns back into CA is why you need the C&R.

Report back though, as this is something I may do when my 03FFL shows up (hopefully in next couple weeks).

[powaybob]

I bought a beautiful Swiss K-31 at J&G in Prescott a couple of years back. I had my C&R and they took it without hassle. They put in on record and I bought a Mosing Nagant last year by mail without a hitch.

[morrcarr67]

My understanding of AZ law is that face to face PPT is pretty much unregulated. Having said that I doubt you will have any problem with used C&R guns. Importing said guns back into CA is why you need the C&R.

Report back though, as this is something I may do when my 03FFL shows up (hopefully in next couple weeks).

Gunner I just want to make sure we keep everyone on the same page because your statement as written could confuse some.

In AZ and most other free states "face to face PPT is/are pretty much unregulated" is true if both buyer and seller are residents of the same state.

Federal law mandates that if they are residents of different states then the transaction must be completed by an FFL in the state of the buyer. In the case of C&R firearms that could be the buyer themselves with an 03 C&R FFL. If the firearm is not a C&R it must be transferred by a dealer in the buyer's home state.

I don't want people thinking that they can go to AZ or any other state for that matter and buy guns from a private party. To give you and everyone else more on this Librarian did a real nice thread on this http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=503873

[Irish Gunner]

Thank you for clarifying. I took a few things for granted. Yes all federal law relating to transfer still apply. AZ doesn't pile much if anything on top of those.

[Ron-Solo]

I've bought from J&G several times by mail and in person. Great service every time from them. I bought a Mosin M38 from a private person with no hassles too. We both had 03 FFL's

[joefrank64k]

I've bought several C&R's at the big Crossroads show in December, 2009...both rifles and pistols. No problems at all. I have an 03.

And several from J&G through the mail.

[Eddie1965]

+1 for J&G I walked in last summer an walked out with 4 handguns 30 minutes later. I'm going to make this a yearly trip. I'll probably head down there in August. A lot of people recommend mailing your license a few weeks in advance to speed up the process if you plan to head down there.

[IdahoF350]

what is the point of a c&r license anyway, i mean doesn't c&r apply to everyone?

[ih8ca]

I am working on quite a list of guns I am interested in buying. I just want to know peoples attitudes toward a CA resident with a C&R. Are private sellers educated about selling guns to me?