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  • Eddie1965
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1465

    Avoid Persian 8mm ammo!

    I purchased one of the 1000 round Perisan 8mm Mauser ammo crates from Samco. First of all Samco shipped the ammo in only the zinc case and not the wooden case which sucked, but since this is brass cased and brass jacketed I would be able to use it year round at the local outdoor ranges.

    So fast forward to today and I'm up an Angeles and I load my VZ-24 and the first round goes click, one Mississippi, two Mississippi, bang! Next one is a dud. And after that every single round I fired (10 in total) had a very long hang fire. Needless to say that was all the shooting I did today.

    Stay away at all costs!
    When You Go Home, Tell Them Of Us And Say,
    For Their Tomorrow, We Gave Our Today"
  • #2
    SKSer45
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 4373

    hmmm well it is 1950's right? I saw that on SAMCO...ehhh its 50/50 when it comes to old surplus stuff.

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    • #3
      Pete1979
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 670

      I have some Radway Green .303 that does the same thing every few rounds or so, scary huh.
      I used to have issues with Yugo 8mm with my VZ.24, had to hit some of them twice until I stripped, cleaned and lubed the bolt, that fixed it. I have some old turk 8mm on strippers, in bandoleers from the 50s that always, always goes bang but its magnetic...

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      • #4
        rodngun762
        Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 276

        Thanks for the warning, that sucks. I wonder how their Iranian 30'06 is..

        At least you can pull the bullets and sell them/reload.

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        • #5
          Pete1979
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 670

          Pics of the head stamp and boxes would be nice, is it in 15rd boxes?

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          • #6
            Caribouriver
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Apr 2010
            • 645

            Knock on wood: I have had good luck with the Yugo brass non-magnetic surplus in German RC's and Czech mausers. Sorry to hear you have a bad batch.

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            • #7
              Spiggy
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2006
              • 8688

              better a dud than a cookoff
              Originally posted by AJAX22
              Anti gun BS...

              Finger print recognition is one more thing that keeps your killamajig from performing its killimafunction

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              • #8
                Agustav
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 1172

                Yugo ammo is GTG in my rifles (8mm, 7.62x54R, and 7.62x39).

                Sorry about your experience with Persian ammo, and thank you for sharing!

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                • #9
                  Howie44
                  C3 Specialist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 2005

                  Put a wolf firing pin spring in it. My '26 VZ24 would not fire yugo surplus on the first strike until I changed out the original spring.

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                  • #10
                    7.62x63mmUS
                    Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 447

                    Thanks for the heads up. LONG hang fires are scary. Good to follow the count to 30 rule. Ive had a few click-bangs with Turk 8mm but nothing more than a second long.

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                    • #11
                      AlabamaBound
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 514

                      Thanks for the warning, I was considering ordering some...

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                      • #12
                        Blitzburgh
                        In Memoriam
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 2635

                        I had an old Yugo Mauser that would sometimes take 2 taps to get it to fire. Found out that the firing pin was just a slight bit short from all the years of use (and I'm sure abuse) and the primers were hard so the combination made for some interesting range trips. I think it was Yugo ammo... don't remember.

                        But I ended up shooting it all. Would just tap it and if it didn't go off... wait for a few seconds then quickly run the bolt up and down to recock the gun, then it would fire on the second tap.

                        Nothing like being a cheap skate
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                        • #13
                          rodngun762
                          Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 276

                          Click...BANG is different than just "click". A new firing spring will cure hard primers but this ammo the OP talks about is defective and dangerous.

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                          • #14
                            Eddie1965
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1465

                            Originally posted by rodngun762
                            Click...BANG is different than just "click". A new firing spring will cure hard primers but this ammo the OP talks about is defective and dangerous.
                            ^This, if it was a hard primer issue I wouldn't have posted this until I swapped out the spring or pin. A couple of times I was already bringing the rifle down from my shoulder when they would go off. I really don't want to use this ammo again.
                            When You Go Home, Tell Them Of Us And Say,
                            For Their Tomorrow, We Gave Our Today"

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                            • #15
                              Pete1979
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 670

                              +1, hang fires are scary...

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