Mosin Question

[jgraham7897]

[jgraham7897]

[jgraham7897]

If needed I can make a quick video of the trigger play. The sear looks fine to me.

[DirtyDave]

Best thing for your Mosin. Has a real safety too.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/559350/timney-trigger-mosin-nagant-1-1-2-to-4-lb-steel-matte

[jgraham7897]

I was looking at those Dave but I just can't justify spending that much on a trigger right now. Funds are tight.

[hypnoman]

Your sear spring looks new! There is probably nothing wrong with it . . . Did it require much force to loosen that screw?

I am concerned that top view shows scratches near screw hole looks like wear from pliers . . . someone might have bent it to change angles and tension (bubba'd trigger job) . . .

It is good you and friend have 2 Mosins! Take the sear from the 2nd one and you should have a reference to compare to - check them both out carefully and you might see the angles are difference. This is just speculation, of course. You might find tightening the sear screw will fix . . .

[hypnoman]

About safeties . . . Mosins have safeties in case you didn't know. After you load a round, just pull the knob back and turn about 10 minutes counter clockwise and you will rest it into a notch. What this does is catches the bolt in pulled back position and turn hammer/notch away from sear notch. It will not fire in this position.

As I said, this rifle will probably be great for a range rifle.

[DirtyDave]

About safeties . . . Mosins have safeties in case you didn't know. After you load a round, just pull the knob back and turn about 10 minutes counter clockwise and you will rest it into a notch. What this does is catches the bolt in pulled back position and turn hammer/notch away from sear notch. It will not fire in this position.

As I said, this rifle will probably be great for a range rifle.

I'm sure everyone with a Mosin is aware of this. Everyone with a Mosin is probably aware that is a pretty lame safety and pretty much sucks balls. Thats why I said the Timney has a REAL safety. You dont have to move your hand from the firing position to disengage it.

And Rotate it 10 minutes?? More like about 25 degrees.
10 minutes is 1/6th of 1 degree. Thats wont get you very far.

[jgraham7897]

Your sear spring looks new! There is probably nothing wrong with it . . . Did it require much force to loosen that screw?

I am concerned that top view shows scratches near screw hole looks like wear from pliers . . . someone might have bent it to change angles and tension (bubba'd trigger job) . . .

It is good you and friend have 2 Mosins! Take the sear from the 2nd one and you should have a reference to compare to - check them both out carefully and you might see the angles are difference. This is just speculation, of course. You might find tightening the sear screw will fix . . .

You know I never thought about comparing it to my brothers. This is why I love you guys here, you help point out the obvious.

[G-Man WC]

Try this. It inexpensive and seems like it would work in taking up the slack on your pull.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mosin-Nagant-Trigger-Spring-Kit-shorter-lighter-trigger-pull-/320871285051?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUA%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D320860246699%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7229105777262179429

I would not trust any safety and load my mosin's one shell at a time on the range. -g

[hypnoman]

Try this. It inexpensive and seems like it would work in taking up the slack on your pull.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mosin-Nagant-Trigger-Spring-Kit-shorter-lighter-trigger-pull-/320871285051?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUA%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D320860246699%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7229105777262179429

I would not trust any safety and load my mosin's one shell at a time on the range. -g

That shim supplied will increase distance or ease tension between contact areas.

If your trigger pull (assuming sear screw is tight) is already (too) light, that shim is useless as it only increase distance or drops tension past excess.

When a Mosin's sear spring tension and/or angle is changed, trigger slack (that bit of travel before the break) becomes weightless.

Since there must be soooo many Mosins out there with lighter trigger and the consequence being weightless slack a market for these spring and shims kits is spawn.

Now can you see just how "normal" it is you have excess "free swinging" slack on your trigger.

The Huber trigger with screw adjustment from the top will increase contact point to take up that slack. I never bought them because I think that is a lot of money to spend when I can take care of it in different ways.

My first Mosin cost me $49.99 and proved to be priceless in the many lessons I learn with it - still my learning platform - still my favorite and top 2 Mosins for accuracy - didn't used to be (use to scatter a bowling ball sized pattern from 50yd.

[hypnoman]

You know I never thought about comparing it to my brothers. This is why I love you guys here, you help point out the obvious.

No facepalm necessary . . . lol. Many of us tinkerers recognize the value of someone elses hindsight. I can't count the many mistakes, I mean lessons I made on the way to finding the "obvious" lol.

I hope you know from these posts that your Mosin is "not" unsafe to shoot.

I know you'll have many, many rounds of enjoyment with your Mosin.

Welcome to the addiction!

[jgraham7897]

Thanks hypno. This is my first C&R so I was not quite prepared. The loose trigger and light trigger pull compared to my brothers concerned me a bit. I know these things were be pumped out as quick as possible so they are not all alike. After putting it back together last night the trigger play is still there but if feels like there pull stiffened up just a little bit.

[hypnoman]

You know. We're a lot alike. When I bought my first in 2002, there weren't "any" good articles on "messing" with it available - I am grateful to all the bubbas since that came before me. I was afraid to fire it and left it in the closet for a few years until a buddy urged me to go fire it.

That slack is actually a great thing. I know a Mosin has a lighter pull when I feel that slack. There things you can do to increase safety, but involves adjustment of the spring and I cannot adequately describe in words how to do it correctly, so I won't attempt. But know that the slack is way more common than we think.

Plus you can turn the bolt knock counter clockwise to set the "safety".

Target rifles with "lightened" triggers are very delicate and sensitive (I never use the word unsafe) and should not be left loaded and propped up.

Defense guns may be left loaded because they have "safe" factory trigger pull so heavy to decrease risk of accidental discharge. Though loaded or unloaded is a personal decision depending on individual lifestyle.

all this and I just meant to say, have fun at the range, good buddy!!"

[jgraham7897]

I can say I feel better after taking it apart and looking at everything myself. I did not buy this for a defense weapon so it being loaded at home is not gonna happen unless the SHTF.

EDIT: Just because I know my brother and I want to beat him to it. Technically I did not buy the Mosin. It was a birthday present from him.