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  • Paulie Lugnuts
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1756

    Hand gun registration problem

    Anybody run into this? I'm trying to buy a CZ52 from a fellow Calgunner. We went to Just Guns to do the PPT. They couldn't find the caliber, 7.62x25 on the DOJ list, so couldn't finish the paper work. They and the seller called DOJ, left messages, but haven't heard back. Not sure what to do next
    Because milsurp.
  • #2
    paul0660
    In Memoriam
    • Jul 2007
    • 15669

    PPT handgun does not need to be on the list.

    Miscommunication or clueless FFL.
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    • #3
      Flintlock Tom
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 3353

      There's a field on the form that requires an entry for caliber. It's not a matter of the gun being on the list.
      I bought a Webley No.5 in ".360CF", which was not an option, so my FFL just selected .455 (cause it was one of the options for Webley, I guess). So my copy of the DROS form incorrectly says ".455 caliber".
      I'm curious how the DoJ will deal with this issue.
      "Everyone must determine for themselves what level of tyranny they are willing to tolerate.
      I let my CA residency expire in 2015."

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      • #4
        Mssr. Eleganté
        Blue Blaze Irregular
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 10401

        Is .30 Tokarev or 7.62 Tokarev on the drop down menu as a caliber choice?
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        • #5
          Paulie Lugnuts
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1756

          Is .30 Tokarev or 7.62 Tokarev on the drop down menu as a caliber choice?
          I don't think so. Two different guys at the gun store looked. We talked about comparable calibers also. I don't get why they don't have an "other" option. If you buy a C+R handgun out of state, you just write the caliber on the registration form.
          Because milsurp.

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          • #6
            Flintlock Tom
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 3353

            Now I'm curious. If the field is a drop-down list there might be "other" way at the bottom and nobody scrolls that far?
            "Everyone must determine for themselves what level of tyranny they are willing to tolerate.
            I let my CA residency expire in 2015."

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            • #7
              morrcarr67
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2010
              • 15043

              Originally posted by Flintlock Tom
              There's a field on the form that requires an entry for caliber. It's not a matter of the gun being on the list.
              I bought a Webley No.5 in ".360CF", which was not an option, so my FFL just selected .455 (cause it was one of the options for Webley, I guess). So my copy of the DROS form incorrectly says ".455 caliber".
              I'm curious how the DoJ will deal with this issue.

              Is .30 Tokarev or 7.62 Tokarev on the drop down menu as a caliber choice?
              If that worked I would start looking for other .30 caliber offerings.

              .30 Luger
              .30 Mauser

              Can you think of any more?
              Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

              Originally posted by Erion929

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              • #8
                Paulie Lugnuts
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 1756

                Originally posted by Flintlock Tom
                Now I'm curious. If the field is a drop-down list there might be "other" way at the bottom and nobody scrolls that far?
                There was no "other", they both looked.

                Strangely the smallest 7.62 listed was 7.62x39. Not sure why that would be on a handgun page. If I remember right the 7.62x25 round is slightly stepped, I'll have to check the ammo we bought for our Tokarev when I get home. So, I don't think there's any .30 cal. that's like that.
                Maybe we should just say its .30 cal. and let it go at that. I doubt anyone at DOJ even knows what a CZ52 is anyway
                Because milsurp.

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                • #9
                  Eljay
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 4985

                  Originally posted by Paulie Lugnuts
                  Strangely the smallest 7.62 listed was 7.62x39. Not sure why that would be on a handgun page.
                  There are AK pistols. Basically looks like an AK rifle but no real stock and short barrel.

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                  • #10
                    Vlad 11
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2961

                    Originally posted by Paulie Lugnuts
                    So, I don't think there's any .30 cal. that's like that.
                    Yes .30 Mauser (7.63x25) is virtually identical


                    Both Tokarev and Mauser are listed as 763 on the NCICcalcodes.

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                    • #11
                      Paulie Lugnuts
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1756

                      Eljay, I forgot about AK pistols, good call. Vlad, I've never seen .30 Mauser. Did they make a .30 handgun?
                      The story from DOJ is leave the caliber section blank and add it to the comments section. We'll give that a try tomorrow. I'll let you know how it works out.
                      Because milsurp.

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                      • #12
                        littlejake
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 2168

                        30 Mauser was the caliber of the Mauser broomhandle; although after the P08 Luger was developed, many broomhandles were made in 9mm.
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                        My posts are my own opinions and do not reflect those of any organization I am a member of.
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                        • #13
                          Shotgun Willie
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 1280

                          Red tape will kill ya. Government go home.

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                          • #14
                            Paulie Lugnuts
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1756

                            Got the deal done yesterday. They put 9mm in the caliber box, couldn't leave blank. Then added note with the correct caliber. I'll post some pics in 10 days or so.
                            Because milsurp.

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                            • #15
                              TRAP55
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5536

                              Originally posted by littlejake
                              30 Mauser was the caliber of the Mauser broomhandle; although after the P08 Luger was developed, many broomhandles were made in 9mm.
                              And many P-08 Lugers were chambered in .30 Mauser too.

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