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  • eagle eye
    CGSSA Associate
    • Jan 2011
    • 1169

    Arisaka

    I have a non matching Arisaka, what do I have?








    Last edited by eagle eye; 03-14-2012, 4:57 PM.
  • #2
    Rogerbutthead
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 3856

    The Arisaka experts are at: http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdis...The-Rising-Sun

    Looks like a Type 38.

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    • #3
      Noonanda
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3404

      Typwe 38 long rifle, 6.5x50 Arisaka. Looks like the stock has been refinished, it shouldnt shine like that unless you just wiped it down
      "You see in this world theres two kinds of people my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig... You Dig" Blondie from TGBU

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      • #4
        Geologyjohn
        Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 249

        As noted above, you have a Type 38 rifle with a scrubbed Mum (indicated surrendered vs. a battlefield find/captured rifle). How about taking a photo of the symbol just in front of the receiver serial number, and the symbol(s) just behind the serial number? That will tell us which Series the rifle is, and which arsenal manufactured the rifle. Geologyjon

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        • #5
          Vlad 11
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 2961

          Not necessarily non-matching as they sometimes can be matched by assembly #.

          need the receiver markings to tell

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          • #6
            jigenax
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 1107

            Wow, someone really scrubbed the bluing off the bolt assemble and safety knob. Kinda weird seeing a two tone T38.
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            • #7
              gun toting monkeyboy
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2008
              • 6820

              I don't know if it has been refinished or not. It is really shiny, but the wood itself doesn't look like it has been sanded down. And do yourself a favor. Don't try to refinish the stock. The varnish used on them will give you a poison-ivy like rash if you mess with it. On the rifle it is fine, as it has generally had 70+ years for the allergic compounds to wear off. But if you remove the outer layers, you are asking for trouble.

              -Mb
              Originally posted by aplinker
              It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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              • #8
                Rogerbutthead
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 3856

                Kinda weird? Most pics I see of Type 38's have the bolt in the white. My Type 38 is in the rear of a safe, but I thought it was in the white too.

                Check Google images, every clear bolt shot I see of a Type 38 has a bolt in the white.

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                • #9
                  CptDan
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 519

                  Originally posted by gun toting monkeyboy
                  Don't try to refinish the stock. The varnish used on them will give you a poison-ivy like rash if you mess with it. On the rifle it is fine, as it has generally had 70+ years for the allergic compounds to wear off. But if you remove the outer layers, you are asking for trouble.

                  -Mb
                  The Japanese were said to use Tung Oil on the stocks which some people are alergic to.

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                  • #10
                    gun toting monkeyboy
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 6820

                    Originally posted by CptDan
                    The Japanese were said to use Tung Oil on the stocks which some people are alergic to.
                    Nope. They used a varnish made from a sumac tree native to Japan. Here is a link to a very good article on it.



                    -Mb
                    Originally posted by aplinker
                    It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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                    • #11
                      Rogerbutthead
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 3856

                      dupe

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                      • #12
                        gun toting monkeyboy
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 6820

                        Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
                        dupe
                        What dupe? The thread? A guy is asking what rifle he had. How can that be a dupe? And the comments on the finish are entirely appropirate to the conversation. So what are you calling "dupe" on? The link to the correct article? Pointing out a link to relevent information on a new thread hardly constitutes a "dupe". Just because you have seen the information before doesn't mean that it is common knowledge. You keep using that word. I do no think it means what you think it means...

                        -Mb
                        Originally posted by aplinker
                        It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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                        • #13
                          Rogerbutthead
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3856

                          I duped the article on Arisaka finishes, sorry it was not as clear as if I left it.

                          I keep using the word "dupe"?

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                          • #14
                            Sampachi
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 812

                            Originally posted by jigenax
                            Wow, someone really scrubbed the bluing off the bolt assemble and safety knob. Kinda weird seeing a two tone T38.
                            It depends on when the T38 was made and by whom. Early bolts were all metal "in the white", middle production had blued safeties and the final models had all blued parts.

                            What is odd with this rifle is that the safety is a later style, so I would think that it should be blued. Without seeing the serial number and arsenal, it's a bit of a mystery.

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                            • #15
                              6mmintl
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 4822

                              The typical finish is made from Sumac (Poison sumac) Lacquer that grows wild in japan and back east USA, its a red berry flower/pod spindly bush/sapling that gives you nasty blisters and Oozing sores unlike poison Ivy if you brush up against it.

                              If the 6.5mm bore on it is very good to excellent (rare) and it head spaces ok (if you can find gages) then you have a good shooter with .268-.270" cast bullets out to 300 yards maybe a little more, if you shoot expensive .368 hornady round nose bullets you will be able to shoot out to 600 with a lot of practice.

                              Privi partisan makes brass but only makes U.S. std .264 dia. bullets, hornady is the only co. making correct bore size bullets for arisaka's. Lee make economical dies.

                              Either way its a decent shooter rifle and is a classic milsurp.

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