Mosin trigger question

[joe_sun]

I've had an M44 for years and while I love shooting it, the trigger is horrible. There's nasty creep and you can actually see the bolt moving before the trigger breaks. I just figured it was the nature of the beast.

Imagine my surprise when the $80.00 M91/10 I ordered from Classic came in today. It's got one of the nicest triggers of any of my rifles! I seriously can't believe how nice it is. almost no creep, it must break at 5lb on the dot like a glass rod.

Is there a difference between the 1938 M91/10 and the M44 trigger setups?

As a quick review on the rifle from Classic it's really not as great as they make them out to be. There's a lot of damage to the wood, missing finish, dings and what not. The stock is a marked factory replacement which is fine, the magazine is force matched but that's fine too. There's a pretty nasty scratch down the receiver and OMG the importer markings are horrible bad. The bore is plugged with cosmo so I've not had a chance to grade it.

Oh well if for no other reason than the amazing trigger and the brand new dog collar sling + mosin tool pouch it's a keeper.

[jben]

I have an M44 with an incredible trigger just like you describe your 1938.

It's not a good answer, but I always just figured it was the luck of the draw...?

[caldude]

There are po-boy Mosin trigger jobs you can find on the Internet that will help, or you can spend some bucks on a Huber Concepts trigger. Either way, you can improve the trigger.

[hoozaru]

maybe some russian soldier in the trenches was bored, so he decided to polish the trigger and springs?

[mosinnagantm9130]

Since it's a refurb, the whole rifle is probably force-matching.

As for the trigger, you could shim it.

[Full Clip]

Get a Huber for your M44.

[Flyin Brian]

To answer your question, no there is no difference in the 91/30 and M44 triggers.

If you know how to do it, you can greatly improve any mosin trigger with a file and stone. You could also install finnish modified parts and have even better results.

[captain_chau]

the internal mechanisms for both variants are suppose to be identical with the exception that the m38's and 44's are a bit shorter and in the 44's case having a side mounted bayonet... but can you describe the creep further? does it sort of act like a two stage trigger? or just dysfunctional ?

[TMcC]

I thought about picking up one of these to see if it makes any difference. Seems like a pretty simple solution.

https://www.buymilsurp.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=40704

[hypnoman]

From the rear view, that spring looks like adds even more resistance to your pull, making it heavier. It seems to take the slck or loose swing some mosin triggers have. From my experience (I have reduced a couple of triggers to about 4 - 5 lb pull with a shorter pull) the stock triggers modified for trigger pull will sometimes have that loose swing. By added that spring on the back side the slack is taken up. But it doesn't look like it could lighten your trigger pull.

[hypnoman]

I've had an M44 for years and while I love shooting it, the trigger is horrible. There's nasty creep and you can actually see the bolt moving before the trigger breaks. I just figured it was the nature of the beast.

It is the nature of the Mosin beast in factory trim.

The angle of the back side of the sear allows it to catch the hook of the bolt so tightly, as you pull the trigger and its cam rotates to push the hook downward, that hook pulls the bolts down (you can actually see it bounce up and down by working the trigger back and forth) til finally it breaks after overcoming all that! It is an extremely "safe" trigger with as much 12lbs of force required to break it!

So here is your solution. Gradually adjust the angle/relationship between your sear and bolt contact and you will improve the trigger feel! But be very, very careful here! "All info shared is for discussion purposes only. Do not construe this post as endorsement or encouragement to take any action that may minimize safety or increase risk of damage to firearm and/or self and/ or others!"

[redking]

One of my 91/30's has an amazing trigger. one has an OK trigger, one has a terrible trigger....

LUCK OF THE DRAW

[joe_sun]

Quick update, had some time to clean the bore out. It sucks. Not Yugo sewer pipe bad but it's dark and nasty.

[paul0660]

To answer your question, no there is no difference in the 91/30 and M44 triggers.

Except for different factories, quality control, days of the week, etc.

After my fling with mosins I have a 1927 ex Dragoon and a 1943 m38 left. The rifle has a great trigger, single stage of course, as they designed it, the carbine a trigger as smooth as a gravel driveway........but oh that FIREBALL.

[notme92069]

If you know how to do it, you can greatly improve any mosin trigger with a file and stone.

Just be careful. My Mosin trigger spring/sear was modified when I got it. I did a function check (after cleaning) and then took it to the range. After about 20 rounds when it had heated up, it fired when I closed the bolt. Not a good thing. When I got it home I couldn't get it to do it again. I figure the difference was the receiver and bolt expanded with the heat. I bought a new trigger spring that was blue without any filing marks on it and haven't had a problem since.