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Remington M1903A3 rifle at GunBroker-No Return Privilage ?!

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  • #16
    Jarhead
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 2847

    too many con artist out there to take a chance on a no inspection period buy.

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    • #17
      saki302
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 7187

      I don't offer a return policy on my GB auctions, but my feedback speaks for itself. Most of them say 'better than I expected".
      I do offer to take close-up photos of any part requested, and can even do a video firing demonstration with pistols.

      There's just too many people screwing around these days, mis-cleaning weapons, or disassembling them past their skill level. USGI items are the worst offenders.
      If a seller has more than 50 positive feedbacks with no negatives, I think that speaks for itself already.

      You can usually tell via their email replies what kind of person the seller is anyhow. Like, WOUUD YOU BUY FROM THIES GUY? Or would you buy from this guy?

      -Dave

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      • #18
        Electric Factory
        Senior Member
        • May 2006
        • 1855

        This is a tough one. On the one hand I think a 3-day inspection period is both resoanble and fair when it comes to buying firearms from an internet seller. Subject of course to the sellers inspection once the gun is returned.
        On the other hand I had no idea that the stripping/ removing of parts is so common a problem.
        That said, isn't the sellers feedback rating about creating confidence for the buyer to send his money ? And not necessarily to negate an inspection period ?
        Since I made out very well with the purchase of my M1903A3 I can't complain about my specific experience other than to say I took a 600.00+ gamble- and it worked out.
        Suppose it hadn't ? What are your options if a seller defrauds you ? Wouldn't the fault lay with me for buying the gun without an expressed inspection period ? Isn't it the sellers responsibility to insure all of the parts of the rifle are intact prior to returning cash ?

        I'm definitely ambivilant about this...


        Originally posted by saki302
        I don't offer a return policy on my GB auctions, but my feedback speaks for itself. Most of them say 'better than I expected".
        I do offer to take close-up photos of any part requested, and can even do a video firing demonstration with pistols.

        There's just too many people screwing around these days, mis-cleaning weapons, or disassembling them past their skill level. USGI items are the worst offenders.
        If a seller has more than 50 positive feedbacks with no negatives, I think that speaks for itself already.

        You can usually tell via their email replies what kind of person the seller is anyhow. Like, WOUUD YOU BUY FROM THIES GUY? Or would you buy from this guy?

        -Dave
        Last edited by Electric Factory; 10-22-2007, 11:51 AM.

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        • #19
          dfletcher
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2006
          • 14787

          Feeback should be the most certain way of knowing if you are dealing with a reputable seller. However - and I don't know how to address this problem - I have had a few situations where the seller I purchased from clearly did not deliver and threatened me with retaliatory negative feedback if I dared to post honest, negative feedback. I'm sure others have experienced the same, so the absence of negative feedback may not truly reflect the seller's record.

          Most sellers will not post their feedback until the buyer has posted feedback. I think this is wrong and a better system would be that the seller has say 10 days to post feedback, the buyer has 30 days. That would preclude the retaliatory negative from the seller.
          GOA Member & SAF Life Member

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          • #20
            Electric Factory
            Senior Member
            • May 2006
            • 1855

            Originally posted by dfletcher
            Feeback should be the most certain way of knowing if you are dealing with a reputable seller. However - and I don't know how to address this problem - I have had a few situations where the seller I purchased from clearly did not deliver and threatened me with retaliatory negative feedback if I dared to post honest, negative feedback. .
            I agree. Whether GB or eBay, the feedback system is in place as a guide for BUYERS. The more positive transactions the seller has, the more faith the BUYER can have that he too will have a successful transaction.

            As to retaliatory feedback, it's definitely one of my pet peeves and an obvious flaw in the feedback system.

            The motivation to leave negative feedback for someone - however deserving- is dampened by the threat of retaliatory feedback .


            My question however still goes to the Inspection Period. Putting aside the unscrupulous pirate for a moment, t here are some honest SELLERS who are simply uninformed about military guns, or not knowledgable of the item they're selling, or near sighted , or simply delusional.

            Case in point- I have definite ideas about what constitutes a 'mint bore'. Some SELLER on the other hand may consider a bore with slight frosting or slightly worn lands+grooves as 'mint' because he sees shiny-ness when he pokes his bore light inside for a peak.

            It seems to me an inspection period is for both SELLER and BUYER in order to agree- based on the BUYER's personal inspection- that the transaction has been concluded satisfactorily .
            Last edited by Electric Factory; 10-22-2007, 3:09 PM.

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