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  • OHOD
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    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2009
    • 11047

    Garand question

    I do not own a Garand, I am asking about a photograph and potential purchase.

    There is a scalloped shaped notched at 7 oclock on the ramp to the chamber. I think this is normal and part of the design.
    But...
    There is a micro crack from the scallop shape to the first angle to the chamber.

    Question...
    Would this indicate a stress fracture from modern ammunition?

    I will not post a picture. Sorry.
    Gotta go with my description.
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    kwansao
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 711

    i have heard using hot ammo in a garand would potentially lead to problems with the heel of the receiver & op rod.
    Last edited by kwansao; 08-17-2011, 12:06 AM. Reason: stupid, can't read.
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    • #3
      EricClay
      Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 144

      Originally posted by OHOD
      I do not own a Garand, I am asking about a photograph and potential purchase.

      There is a scalloped shaped notched at 7 oclock on the ramp to the chamber. I think this is normal and part of the design.
      But...
      There is a micro crack from the scallop shape to the first angle to the chamber.

      Question...
      Would this indicate a stress fracture from modern ammunition?

      I will not post a picture. Sorry.
      Gotta go with my description.
      The barrel on the M1 Garand can shoot all SAAMI 30-06 ammunition. The concern is with the operating rod and the heel of the receiver if it's old enough.

      A crack in the barrel is probably just a defect or age related failure. Either way the barrel is toast. You'll want to also inspect the receiver once the barrel is off to make sure the receiver isn't cracked as well.

      Eric

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      • #4
        FLIGHT762
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 3072

        You should not shoot all SAAMI rated ammunition in the Garand unless you have an adjustable gas cylinder and tune it to the ammunition you are using.

        The Garand was designed to shoot and function with ammunition loaded with medium burning powder in the 4895 range of speed. Many of the current loadings for the 30/06 may be using powders in the slower burning speed range, especially with the heavier bullets.

        Shooting the Garand with slower burning powders have higher port pressures and can lead to a bent or broken op rod/ cracked receiver heel.

        Port pressure is important with the Garand. Federal loads an American Eagle brand of ammunition that is loaded for the Garand.

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        • #5
          Milsurp Collector
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          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2009
          • 5884

          The scallop cut is normal but there shouldn't be a crack.



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          • #6
            big103
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jul 2009
            • 3511

            ^^^ Chamber should look like picture above. It shouldn't have any cracks on the feed ramp or any part of the chamber face. Try wiping it away it doesn't wipe away then stay way.

            Go with what Milsurp Collector say cmp all the way. They never let me down.
            Last edited by big103; 08-17-2011, 3:22 AM.
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            • #7
              OHOD
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              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2009
              • 11047

              Thank you everyone for chiming in.
              Turns out, it is a crack, on closer inspection.

              I think I'll go the CMP route.

              Thanks everyone.
              You guys are the shiz of the nit.
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              • #8
                OHOD
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                CGN Contributor
                • Jan 2009
                • 11047

                Photo Credit goes to Milsurp Collector

                I put a red mark on his picture to show what the crack looked like.
                Thx MC

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                • #9
                  wash
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 9011

                  That is not where I would expect a barrel to crack.

                  Could it possibly be a .308 Navy Garand with the chamber insert cracked?
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                  • #10
                    aghauler
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 4794

                    Originally posted by wash
                    That is not where I would expect a barrel to crack.

                    Could it possibly be a .308 Navy Garand with the chamber insert cracked?
                    I don't believe the 7.62 Nato insert is visible at the rear of the chamber, if that's what you are asking. It's in the front of the chamber not full length.

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