Fun at the range with milsurps

[Jack Straw from Wichita]

Went to the range a week ago with my Garand and K31. Interestingly, the first 4 or 5 shots out of each rifle were my best, and things went kinda downhill from there.

Here are the first four shots with the Garand @ 100 yards. Ammo was Danish milsurp M2 ball:



And here are the first four from the K31, with GP11 ammo (also @ 100 yards):



(and the camera is a cheapie Olympus Camedia 3.0 megapixel)

Overall the K31 was more consistent than the M1. The Garand's groups opened up noticeably as the barrel heated up.

So, anyone else want to share their milsurp range fun?

Regards,
-Jack

[thisismyboomstick]

How the **** did you get that group out of a M1? That is impressive. What are the specs on that rifle? It's got a heavy Krieger barrel in .308 right?

[eckerph]

open sights? or scope? those are some pretty tight groups for 100yds from a milsurp open sights. Good work though.

[milsurpshooter]

yeah i love the milsurps i just bought a yugo m48 two weeks ago and haven't shot it yet but i'm waiting. as for the k31 i have one of those to and i love it, i'm not surprised at all with those groups. but at the same time a rifle is onlt as good as the shooter nice work. just curoius were you using gp-11 ammo or handloads. if handloads please do share.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

That has to be with a scope. The whole target is black. Not a good sight picture for iron sights.

But that's still dang good shooting.

[icormba]

That Danish 30.06 is good stuff!

Jack Straw from Wichita, (M1) check your front handguard and make sure it's loose and wiggles

nice shootin'

[Jack Straw from Wichita]

Looks like there are a few questions, so I'll answer them as best I can:

Yes, both rifles are scoped. The K31 has a Darrell's Scout mount and a Burris handgun scope. The M1 has an S&K mount and a Bushnell Elite 3-9x. I guess I should have mentioned that, huh?

The M1 handguard is loose and wiggly.

Re M1 specs: bought it at a gun show about 10 years ago. The previous owner replaced the stock with a Ramline synthetic, and the GI barrel was replaced with some sort of 6-groove aftermarket barrel. There are no markings on the barrel, so I have no idea where it's from. The barrel is parkerized, if that's any help. Receiver is a 1942 Springfield Armory. Other than adding the scope, I've made no mods to the rifle. Yes, it's still .30-06.

Thanks for the compliments. It was definintely one of my better days.

If anyone else has targets to share, feel free.

Regards,
-Jack

[eckerph]

Yes, both rifles are scoped. The K31 has a Darrell's Scout mount and a Burris handgun scope. The M1 has an S&K mount and a Bushnell Elite 3-9x. I guess I should have mentioned that, huh?

Those are still very tight groups for surplus rifles IMHO. real good shooting. you need to ditch that ramline and put on some walnut or the garand fairy will steal you're ammo!

[God Bless The Mauser]

Here's my Garand at 100 yards with Greek HXP.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

The action might have set after a few shots on your M1. Post your results next time you go to the range with it.

[milsurpshooter]

the swiss. were you using handloads or the gp-11 surplus.?

[Jack Straw from Wichita]

the swiss. were you using handloads or the gp-11 surplus.?

GP-11 surplus.

-Jack

[Jack Straw from Wichita]

The action might have set after a few shots on your M1.

I wish I knew what that means. Care to explain?

Post your results next time you go to the range with it.

Will do.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

I wish I knew what that means. Care to explain?

Just saying it takes a few rounds to "get things going" from going from a cold clean bore and then one that's been fired a few times. Did your groups just open on you?

[Morales]

I must put a scope on my K31. And I must get an M1.