Have an Old Winchester?

[TRAP55]

has 2 tapped drill holes on side of rear receiver, I dunno what a sniper grade is?

The Model 54 Snipers rifle had a carbine style barrel band w/sling swivel and.....a peep sight mounted on the rear receiver bridge.
Your rifle cost a whopping $53 in 1930, for most people at that time, that may well have been two months wages!
The Sniper model was $187 in 1932!

[freonr22]

it did come with a peep sight, maybe a pacific? still have somewhere, is this the barrel band you are referring to?

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[TRAP55]

No, the band looks like a military band. That's the rear sight mounting boss.
The pics I'm looking at are photo copies, of jpg. images, taken from deteriorating microfilm.
From the pics, theres not a lot of difference between a stand and super grade, but the super grade appears to have a ramp front sight with a hood, a monte carlo stock, and a ebony or tenite forend cap.

[freonr22]

thank you!! it would appear that mine is a std grade, thank you again, what a fantastic resource you offer!! iin your spare time, if you happen to remember, how many ss were made would be totally awesome!! thank you again!!

[Geologyjohn]

Thank you Trap! This is a follow-up to your post of 12:35 today. To answer your question, mine is a Saddle Ring carbine. Gotta love these things! Love to know who owned it 110 years ago! Geologyjohn

[TRAP55]

WTH did you find longs? Were they the CCI CB longs? That's all I can find!
I picked up a nice little Remington #4 Rolling Block Takedown chambered in .22 short and long. The CB longs were okay, but the HiSpeed shorts worked better.

BTW gentleman, you are all most welcome for the info! It's been fun digging in these serial number records, I'm learning something too!
Writing this info down on a piece of paper, and slipping it under the buttplate for a future generation wouldn't be a bad idea.

[TRAP55]

thank you!! it would appear that mine is a std grade, thank you again, what a fantastic resource you offer!! iin your spare time, if you happen to remember, how many ss were made would be totally awesome!! thank you again!!

freonr22, just got off the phone with Bert, man talk about information overload! You get him started on Winchester stuff and your head will explode!
Anyhow, on the stainless barrels, made 1926-1930, and they made em for damned near all the models, shotguns too, and rare on most models...... but the most common one he has seen was on the model 54.
The barrels were painted with "Japan Black", and you rarely see one without at least half of it gone. He said Hoppes will take it off.
There hasn't been any data on how many were produced, or what they were produced for.
I learned something new today myself, with the exception of a few .22 models, Winchester stamped a two digit DOM on the bottom of the barrels, just in front of the receivers, from 1924-1955.

[TRAP55]

As I recall, back in the 50's I used to buy any box of .22 ammo for something like 4 bits, at the hardware store in town.

And these youngsters just look at us funny when we talk about the good ol' days.
I remember getting peeved when the price of a brick of 500 shot up to $9!
Watch Wally World for the .22 shorts and CB shorts, for some reason they end up sitting on the shelf, and the price is almost reasonable. Sometimes they'll have the CB longs too. I don't think anyone even makes longs now, only the CB longs.

[BruceR]

Trap55,

What do you show for a Winchester model 1894 .30-30 lever-action saddle ring carbine, s/n 958603?

Thanks.

[TRAP55]

Trap55,

What do you show for a Winchester model 1894 .30-30 lever-action saddle ring carbine, s/n 958603?

Thanks.

Made 1923, 13,208 made that year. PR records yours.

[BruceR]

Thank Trap!

With better than 13,000 made that year, I guess my '94 isn't so terribly rare . . .

[TRAP55]

Thank Trap!

With better than 13,000 made that year, I guess my '94 isn't so terribly rare . . .

Bruce, bad guess.
13,000 was a relatively low production number for 94's, and think about how many have survived the last 88 years.
To give you a better idea, from 1894 to 1963, they produced 2,600,500!
Ist year of 1894 only 1,674 were made.
Lowest number made between 1894 and 1963 was 0 in 1943.
The previous year of 1942, 29,882 were made, 1944 only 13 were made.
1948 saw the highest number produced of 147, 934!
So yeah......IMHO, 1 of 13,000 made 88 years ago is rare enough, especially a SRC!.

[thedonger]

Model 1894 - 452522 - 32WS

[TRAP55]

Model 1894 - 452522 - 32WS

1909, 19,345 made that year, PR records yours.
1909 was a year of low production, the previous 5 years were all 40-50,000, and later 6 years from 30-102,000.

[thedonger]

1909, 19,345 made that year, PR records yours.
1909 was a year of low production, the previous 5 years were all 40-50,000, and later 6 years from 30-102,000.

One database I found reported 1908, don't remember what it was based on.