Bleeding the Cosmo???

[mur]

I understand That I will NEVER get all the Cosmo out of my Stock
However At what point do I stop?
I used DeNatual Alcohol to Remove the Shellac then
Acetone to remove the oil and Dirt
I then wrapped the Stock in Paper Towels and Plastic Bag and Placed in Car Windshield. It's been there a few Weeks, changing out towels every 3rd day or so. Damn Thing Keeps Going.

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[taloft]

The trick is to wipe down the stock every 15 to 30 minutes once you get it sweating. The wiping down seems to promote the cosmo weeping out of the wood. You have the right idea with the windshield. During the summer your vehicle will get that stock sweating in no time.

Just stick the stock in a big black trash bag and put it on the dash. Don't bother putting paper towels in the bag with the stock, it will do nothing for you but cling to the stock requiring you to remove it prior to wiping down.

Then, just come back every half hour and wipe it down with paper towels. I've found that it only takes one day of doing this if it is hot and you remember to keep wiping it down. When you're ready to stop, just remove the stock from the bag and let it cool in a suitable place. Give the remaining surface cosmo a quick wipe down with some mineral spirits and you're done. Are you going to refinish it? If so be thorough. Patience is the key to success with this.

Almost forgot, there are several methods you can try. Check out http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting...thod/index.asp Surplus rifle is a great resource.

[FinweElensar]

I packed my K98 with kitty litter using the paper towels to hold the litter and taped it around. Think of it as a meatloaf with the stock in the middle of all that oil-absorbing kitty litter. In the middle of the week, I removed everything and wash it down with Purple Power. I don't have the time to clean the cosmo off every day, or every 30 minutes(watching the kid/working at nights).

Rinse and repeat until there is no more cosmo smell.

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[icormba]

Actually, here's the thing...
I have 8 Russian captures and all 8 of them have had the same results...

The good news:
The Russians used shellac and then cosmo for long term storage, cosmo will not penetrate shellac.
The bad news:
They didn't do a very good shellacking job under the action area.

I usually strip off the shellac and then concentrate all my cosmo removal efforts in the action area. Sometimes using a heat gun, but most of the time I use tons of Mineral Spirits, a tooth brush, and a ton of rags. This doesn't remove every bit of cosmo, but it doesn't ooze out enough to bother me either.

Another nice thing about the Russian capture k98's is that a laminate stock doesn't soak up as much cosmo as say "regular" beech or elm stock like those seen on the Yugo SKS's (YUK!).

But if that doesn't satisfy you...
Here's one SURE way to keep the cosmo from oozing:
Clean the stock with mineral spirits to get any cosmo left on top of the Shellac. Then apply more shellac to the entire stock. Let dry.
Take some fine grit sand paper and GENTLY sand off the shellac. Doing this will only remove the surface shellac if your careful. Shellac will still be present in the "pores" of the wood where the sand paper can't reach. These "pores" is where the cosmo is hiding but since the shellac has sealed the pores... no cosmo will leak out. I don't do this method myself only because it's very time consuming. I got this one from "Cabinetman" on ParallaxBill's forums.

[mur]

OK, I'll try wiping with MS every 30 minutes or so of sweating. see if it goes any faster.

YA, After the Cosmo is complete I'm just going to Oil her down with tung oil then add a little Shellac (diluted with MS) to fill the pours. I'm not worried about dents and such. Don't want to do any Sanding except for the Shellac sand,with Steel 0000.

Luckily I don't have time to goto the range,So this procees I can go slow

[Blue]

I had a Yugo SKS that was caked in cosmo. I took the stock off, wiped it all down and then turned on the oven to 500. I put an old crappy pan on the bottom rack to catch possible "drippings". I sat on a chair and spun half of the stock in the oven and wiped it all off as the cosmo came out. Once that half was done I switched ends and eventually cooked it all out.

[rjf]

Wipe the cosmo as it bleeds out. Cosmo will soak back in as the stock cools, so you have to constantly wipe. Sit outside with a pitcher of margaritas and a roll of paper towels for a couple of hours.

You can put the stock in the dishwasher with detergent and run on a pot & pans. Take out and air dry after the last wash cycle. This process leaves the stock clean but not wet. It will dry to a bare wood finish (except where covered by paint or shellac) . Use a fine steel wool to polish the wood and apply your stain or finish.

I was skeptcal until I tried it. I read all the comments pro & con. Wife was out and I tried it with a spare Garand stock which came out beautiful. I then put in six more before she got home, and they all came out as nice.

No mess in the dishwasher.

[grammaton76]

Given that I semi frequently buy cosmo'ed milsurps, I decided to go ahead and build myself a cosmoline removal oven.



Works for me. That's an M44, in the pic. Having it vertically arranged allows the cosmo to drip down off of the rifle, and down to the bottom of the can. Just be careful with that bayonet - the temptation is to extend it so its own cosmoline flows off, which means when you bend over it (placing the point at approximately eyeball depth) when reaching in there to wipe down the stock!

[Spiggy]

^ this is what I mean when I say "Gungravy generator"

[StukaJr]

I have SKS crossbolt I ordered and it had cosmo on it - it seems to have dried right around where it unscrews I have yet to try chipping or brass brush, but how do I deal with hardened cosmo? Can it even harden? Or am I dealing with something else?

[grammaton76]

Sounds almost like you could be dealing with two things:

1. Baked cosmoline will get real nasty, and you can't re-liquidate it. All of the liquid is already out of it. Time to soak and chip, I believe.

2. The rifle may have fired a lot of lacquer cased ammunition.

[mur]

Hmmm...., Looks Cheap, Effective and absolutely beautiful......

Mine won't fit in the Oven, So this looks to be a Very good Project for me...

grammaton76, which Wattage of bulbs do you have?
did you use a thermostat to measure how many bulbs and watts it would take to Produce the melting Temperture (125)
do you have a lid?

Given that I semi frequently buy cosmo'ed milsurps, I decided to go ahead and build myself a cosmoline removal oven.



Works for me. That's an M44, in the pic. Having it vertically arranged allows the cosmo to drip down off of the rifle, and down to the bottom of the can. Just be careful with that bayonet - the temptation is to extend it so its own cosmoline flows off, which means when you bend over it (placing the point at approximately eyeball depth) when reaching in there to wipe down the stock!

[finfan]

I have SKS crossbolt I ordered and it had cosmo on it - it seems to have dried right around where it unscrews I have yet to try chipping or brass brush, but how do I deal with hardened cosmo? Can it even harden? Or am I dealing with something else?

As Gram76 says. I had dried cosmo inside the magazine of my Yugo 59.
It will appear as "amber" globules & rock hard. I soaked it in mineral spirits
for hours then slowly 'chipped' & scrubbed. Patience & care will prevail!

[RudyN]

For the Stock I used Simple Green on both my Enfields. It seemed to work ok for me anyway

[Spiggy]

if you got money, gasoline in a drum works pretty good

but the gungravy generator seems to work best