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  • #16
    Captain Cogle
    Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 289

    Why don't they just make a separate topic areas one for Mosin Nagants only and another for turning collectible military weapons into deer rifles. This has so far completely turned away from anything relative to C&R.

    Dont get me wrong, I looooove my Mosin Nagant and I enjoy my .30-06 Savage deer rifle. But my deer rifle is not C&R. A "customized" rifle isnt C&R any more. Its just another rifle. Whats the freaking point??? Buy one of those 7.62x54 sniper rifles if thats what you want. Or buy some other old rifle and build it into something new.

    Helpful hint: Just because it isn't rare today doesn't mean a million morons who take the rifle and separate it from its original parts, which often get lost, sold separately, perhaps because of the death of the original owner, does not mean it wont BECOME a rare rifle. News flash! They havent built a Mosin Nagant bolt rifle in 60 years.

    I dont think I will return to this thread as I will no doubt be drawing fire from every direction as I am a devilish heathen and how dare I speak ill of changing a C&R gun and objecting to "modernizing" a gun on the C&R discussion area. One would think this belongs in the center-fire area but I guess my ignorance is showing once again.

    Shutting up and bowing out now.
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    • #17
      stitchnicklas
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2010
      • 7091

      Originally posted by mosinnagantm9130
      Why not just buy a previously abused bubba? Convert that for your project. It would probably be cheaper too.

      Is it just me, or does every tacticool mosin have some form of the ATI stock?
      i don't want tacticool type,i like going to the range and shooting long range.
      mosin has the power,range,feel,caliber i want. i am not going make a mall ninja gun.

      i am going to put a simple monte carlo stock,change the bolt over to a bent bolt body,add scope mount & scope. i can use a bi-pod that mounts to sling swivel. seems like a pretty simple gun setup now that others have sent me the input i need. when i is all bought i will take before and afters of a fun range gun.

      and i do not throw parts away, i am a pack rat of gun parts..

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      • #18
        7.62x54R
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 1602

        Originally posted by stitchnicklas
        point is i want to customize a mosin,not a savage which i already have (340a model).

        bolt body change sounds the best when it comes to the bolt.

        now about that scope mount,any ideas???????


        and i know better than to destroy a rare gun,i plan on getting one from either-century,aim,jg sales,or big 5----
        We deliver the highest quality sniper scope mounts and accessories for German, Russian, Yugo, Swiss and Swedish military rifles.


        They have a PU style mount that will take a modern 1" scope.
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        • #19
          Flyin Brian
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Oct 2009
          • 3395

          Originally posted by stitchnicklas

          i don't want tacticool type,

          i am not going make a mall ninja gun.

          i am going to put a simple monte carlo stock,change the bolt over to a bent bolt body,add scope mount & scope. i can use a bi-pod that mounts to sling swivel.

          LMAO... you're contradicting yourself.

          If you MUST have a Monte Carlo Mosin mall ninja sniper, why not buy one on gunbroker already "customized". There are probably a dozen on there right now that bubba spent $500 tricking out, and they sit for months with a $125 "buy it now" price. That way when you come to the same conclusion as everyone else, that the rifle shoots best with the original stock, and a scope doesn't seem to help your groups get smaller, you can list it on gunbroker for the next guy who has the itch.

          Think of the mosins we could save?
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          • #20
            Mssr. Eleganté
            Blue Blaze Irregular
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 10401

            Originally posted by Flyin Brian
            ...why not buy one on gunbroker already "customized"...
            Because nobody wants to buy or own a bubba'd Mosin-Nagant.

            Everybody wants to bubba one, but they don't want to buy or own a bubba'd one. Bubba'd Mosin-Nagants are like paint-by-numbers kits. The kit cost $20, but once you are done painting it the final product is not worth anything and nobody wants to hang it on their wall. People want to pay for the experience of painting a masterpiece or building a custom rifle. They don't really want the final product.
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            • #21
              nad24LA
              • Sep 2010
              • 1254

              Why not just buy a barreled action from RGUNs they're only $60.

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              • #22
                stitchnicklas
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2010
                • 7091

                Originally posted by nad24LA
                Why not just buy a barreled action from RGUNs they're only $60.
                well i can get a complete mosin for that price,and he original stock will be donated not thrown in trash.but i will look in to that...

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                • #23
                  Nick1236
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 3843

                  For your scope mount, why not take off the rear sight completely? Its leaves behind a perfect 3/8 divetail. Its non permanent if you decide to put your rifle back to stock configuration.

                  Buy a 3/8 dovetail to weaver adaptor. mount the adaptor on the dovetail and use some silver sodder to make sure its not gonna move. They used silver sodder originally to hold the rear sight base on so its not going to hurt anything. Then you can mount your scope to the weaver rail and your good to go. No need to modify your bolt. I did this to my old plain jane 91/30 and it worked great.
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                  • #24
                    Interloper
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2680

                    Originally posted by stitchnicklas
                    i don't want tacticool type,i like going to the range and shooting long range.
                    mosin has the power,range,feel,caliber i want.
                    And regardless of what you do to it or add on to it, you'll have a gun worth less than the sum of it's parts that shoots between 3 and 6 MOA!

                    Because nobody wants to buy or own a bubba'd Mosin-Nagant.

                    Everybody wants to bubba one, but they don't want to buy or own a bubba'd one. Bubba'd Mosin-Nagants are like paint-by-numbers kits. The kit cost $20, but once you are done painting it the final product is not worth anything and nobody wants to hang it on their wall. People want to pay for the experience of painting a masterpiece or building a custom rifle. They don't really want the final product.
                    This is probably the most insightful comment on this issue I've ever read.

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                    • #25
                      mosinnagantm9130
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2009
                      • 8782

                      Originally posted by Interloper
                      And regardless of what you do to it or add on to it, you'll have a gun worth less than the sum of it's parts that shoots between 3 and 6 MOA!
                      Yep. I would bet my bone stock m28/30 would shoot better than just about any 91/30 "project".

                      Scopes don't magically make a rifle shoot better.
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                      Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
                      Originally posted by ChopperX
                      I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
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                      Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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                      • #26
                        mosinnagantm9130
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2009
                        • 8782

                        Originally posted by Captain Cogle
                        Why don't they just make a separate topic areas one for Mosin Nagants only and another for turning collectible military weapons into deer rifles. This has so far completely turned away from anything relative to C&R.

                        Dont get me wrong, I looooove my Mosin Nagant and I enjoy my .30-06 Savage deer rifle. But my deer rifle is not C&R. A "customized" rifle isnt C&R any more. Its just another rifle. Whats the freaking point??? Buy one of those 7.62x54 sniper rifles if thats what you want. Or buy some other old rifle and build it into something new.

                        Helpful hint: Just because it isn't rare today doesn't mean a million morons who take the rifle and separate it from its original parts, which often get lost, sold separately, perhaps because of the death of the original owner, does not mean it wont BECOME a rare rifle. News flash! They havent built a Mosin Nagant bolt rifle in 60 years.
                        I like this guy. Not afraid to speak his mind, and makes some good points.

                        Although, I will correct that. They haven't built 91/30's in 60 years. The last m39's rolled out in 1970. (although those are pretty rare)
                        Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
                        My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

                        Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
                        Originally posted by ChopperX
                        I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
                        Originally posted by Jeff L
                        Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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                        • #27
                          Grendl
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1657

                          Everybody wants to bubba one, but they don't want to buy or own a bubba'd one. Bubba'd Mosin-Nagants are like paint-by-numbers kits. The kit cost $20, but once you are done painting it the final product is not worth anything and nobody wants to hang it on their wall. People want to pay for the experience of painting a masterpiece or building a custom rifle. They don't really want the final product.
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                          • #28
                            stitchnicklas
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 7091

                            for the haters,i am looking for a previously mod'ed 91/30 to use,i can get a mosin from any where cheap yet i am waiting for a little while to find a already altered mosin.

                            this thread was about mosin mods and such.changing the bolt house is not desecration,neither is installing a scope and mount using tangent sight mount area.

                            so quit hating,it ain't cool....

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                            • #29
                              Avs Dan Fresno
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 13

                              I will agree that these rifles are nice and yes they have not made them for a long time... But, it is his money and he bought his gun with an idea in his mind on how he wanted to change some components of that gun. I am the type of person, that thinks if a person wants to do something to HIS property, then Da**it let him do what he wants. It is not affecting you at all.

                              Now I will also be one to tell you that I used a M91 ever Deer season for 8 years and must say I killed a lot of Deer with that old gun! One thing I always wished I could have had on that gun was a Scope. Whoever said that a Scope doesnt just help you shoot 2 inch groups, but when you are shooting that gun at 400-1000 yards (Which it will do EASILY). The scope does help you get on that Target, where it is very hard with those Iron Sights (know this first hand, longest Deer kill was 527 yards. I walked it myself).

                              I just bought a M91/30 from Big 5 and brought it home today. I am gonna tell you right now, I WILL be putting a Scope on this Rifle as I plan to shoot those 500-1000 yard shots. I dont know very many men out there that can make a 1000 yard shot with Iron Sights. So, say whatever you want about me ruining a perfectly well shooting Mosin Nagant M91/30 for adding a scope. Now before you ask, I am buying a spare complete bolt unit, and will be modifying the Bolt Body of the spare to have the Bent Type for fitting under the scope. I will NEVER sell this gun, nor will I EVER sell the Original Bolt Body from the gun, so I feel 100% comfortable with my decision, and I will be taking that Elk, Muley or whatever else I decide to kill at 1000 yards.

                              I am sorry that I got on a Soap Box here, but I hate people telling other people what they should and should not do with something that they worked so hard to make the money to buy... Oh and California, waited the stupid 10 day waiting period to get (I will be so happy when my C&R gets here, so I dont have to wait anymore). I am now off my soap box and again sorry for the Soap Box.

                              Thx, Dan

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                              • #30
                                roughneck427
                                Member
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 147

                                Here if you dont want the ati stock i just ordered this stock two days ago im adding it to my 91/30 http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Ria-Mo...gant-s/153.htm

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