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  • #31
    ke6guj
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    Originally posted by beemaze
    Which brings up an interesting issue that might be outside the scope of this thread. Turner's facilitated the PPT, DROSed the rifle as a PPT, but I know Turner's held that rifle in their inventory as a consignment. I believe if that is the case, they must have had to enter it in their bound book. How they enter it as a disposition is the key. I'm willing to bet they entered it as a disposition to the original owner, who then transferred it to me. Techinically I still think Turner's is wrong here, because if the rifle was in their bound book (I'm pretty sure it was in their store more than 30 days), they would have to DROS/4473 the rifle back to the original owner who then would subsequently transfer the rifle to me sans 4473.

    Whatever Turner's is doing is hokey, and I'm surprised they are getting away with it. I tried to show them the error of their ways, but with no success. An additional 4473 will not kill me, but it still sucks in a minor way.
    Turner's is most likely doing it the same way everyone else is doing it. I would disagree with the bolded sections.

    I don't see what the issue is. If the guy walked in with a buyer and did a PPT, he would fill out his part of the PPT paperwork, Turners' would take the firearm from the owner, Turners would enter it into their bound book. The buyer fills out his part of the PPT paperwork . Turners then sets on it for the DROS to clear and would release it to the buyer after the 10-days were up and log it out of the bound book.

    In this case, guy goes into to Turners to do a cosignment. Turners has him fill out his part of the PPT paperwork and they log the firearm into the bound book. Once they find a buyer for it, they finalize the PPT paperwork with the buyer and do the same as above.

    In both cases, the firearm gets logged into Turner's bound book.
    Jack



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    • #32
      beemaze
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 1981

      I see, then from whom did I acquire the rifle, Turner's or the private party? My concern is entering that info in my acquisition column in my bound book.

      Also. it is clear that my filling out a 4473 on this C&R purchase was totally unnecessary and an error on Turner's part.

      Sorry for the highjack, but this is good learning experience for all.

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      • #33
        ke6guj
        Moderator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2003
        • 23725

        you acquired it from Turner's. You need to log it in as coming from Turner's. Now, if you want to add a notication with the private parties info as well, that would probably be fine.

        In this case, it was transfered from the PP to Turners, who then transfered it to you. Turners logged it in from the PP and logged it out to you. You log it in as coming from Turners. If you logged it is an coming from the PP, then two sets of books would show the same person as the "acquired from" source.
        Jack



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