COE questions

[t0kie]

Can I apply COE without waiting for my C&R license?

What should I check on section B (Business Type), should I check "Collector" or "Other" ? (FYI: I'm just an individual that is applying also for C&R License).
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[ke6guj]

Can I apply COE without waiting for my C&R license?

yes, you can.

What should I check on section B (Business Type), should I check "Collector" or "Other" ? (FYI: I'm just an individual that is applying also for C&R License).

collector would be fine.

[t0kie]

Great, thanks.

Live Scan is done, just another paperwork to Sacto and the wait begins
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The Peak Towers Prathumnak

[1 SIG fan]

when i called DOJ about that same question they said it would ONLY apply to a C&R licenese and i had to include that copy. ALSO, that I could only buy C&R firearms...
I was hoping to use it as a method to purchase more handguns then 1 in 30 would allow normally. I assumed this was a legal registration thing to get around that. Apparently, not..??

Please clarify.

[EBR Works]

With C&R + COE you are allowed as many handguns (C&R or modern) in 30 days as you can afford.

[ke6guj]

when i called DOJ about that same question they said it would ONLY apply to a C&R licenese and i had to include that copy.

I never sent a copy of my C&R license to CADOJ when I applied for my COE.

ALSO, that I could only buy C&R firearms...
I was hoping to use it as a method to purchase more handguns then 1 in 30 would allow normally. I assumed this was a legal registration thing to get around that. Apparently, not..??

Please clarify.

the PC does not limit the 1-in-30 exemption to jst C&R handguns.

12072(9)(A) No person shall make an application to purchase more than one pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person within any 30-day period.
(B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to any of the following:
(ix) Any person who is licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued to him or her by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 12071.

if you have a C&R + COE, the exemption applies to all handgun purchases.

[winnre]

I have my COE but am jumping through hoops for my C&R. if I do not get it, is the COE worth anything alone?

[Josh3239]

COE is pretty much worthless without it.

[SJgunguy24]

I have my COE but am jumping through hoops for my C&R. if I do not get it, is the COE worth anything alone?

Yes it is, you need to have a COE to handle receivers or to fill out DROS forms when working at a gunshop. If you want to help out at a shop to earn $$$ for a gun or whatever you will need a COE.

[Helpful_Cub]

If you have a COE, can't you use that to order ammo once Feb. 2011 comes around?

[SJgunguy24]

If you have a COE, can't you use that to order ammo once Feb. 2011 comes around?

COE+ 03FFL are exempt from the handgun mail order ammo ban. Now finding a vendor who will believe you is the hard part.

[winnre]

Yes it is, you need to have a COE to handle receivers or to fill out DROS forms when working at a gunshop. If you want to help out at a shop to earn $$$ for a gun or whatever you will need a COE.

From what the folks at Turner's tell me, there ain't big money in selling guns.

[ke6guj]

Yes it is, you need to have a COE to handle receivers or to fill out DROS forms when working at a gunshop. If you want to help out at a shop to earn $$$ for a gun or whatever you will need a COE.

well, state law doesn't require you to have a COE in order to work for a gunshop, but the gunshop may require you have an employee COE in order to work for him.

37.Is the Employee COE required of each employee?

No. The firearms dealer may choose whether or not to require each of his employees who has access to firearms to obtain a DOJ Employee COE. If the firearms dealer chooses not to require an Employee COE, then the employee does not need to obtain one unless he or she is required to under local licensing requirements.

(PC section 12071)

and you can convert a regular COE into an Employee COE.

36.What is an Employee COE?

The Employee COE is issued to persons who apply for a COE as employees of a licensed California firearms dealer, and are found to be lawfully eligible to possess firearms. A person who has an existing or non-employee COE may be associated with a licensed firearms dealer by the submission of a COE Report of Employment form. This form may also be used to notify the DOJ if an employee COE holder goes to work for a different firearms dealer.

(PC section 12071)

If you have a COE, can't you use that to order ammo once Feb. 2011 comes around?

the COE by itself, does not qualify for the exemption. You must have the C&R FFL + the COE for the exemption.

[t0kie]

So, once we have C&R + COE, the 1 handgun DROS every 30 days will not affect us, but how does it work?

Is it going to be instantly, like DOJ will know everytime we DROS the handgun, we just do the same DROS like before

or

do we need to tell the FFL that we have C&R + COE & bring the original copy, so the FFL will put a note/mark somewhere on the DROS that will exempt us for that 30 days law?
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[beemaze]

when i called DOJ about that same question they said it would ONLY apply to a C&R licenese and i had to include that copy. ALSO, that I could only buy C&R firearms...
I was hoping to use it as a method to purchase more handguns then 1 in 30 would allow normally. I assumed this was a legal registration thing to get around that. Apparently, not..??

Please clarify.

Nonsense. The person that answers the phone at CA DOJ is a technician, not a lawyer, perhaps not even a High School graduate.

I applied for the COE at the same time I applied for my C&R. I received my COE before I received my C&R.

One in 30 exemption is performed online during the DROS process. I've walked my own 01FFL dealers through it.

Yes, it entitles you to a 10 waiting period exemption on ALL C&R guns in conjunction with your C&R FFL. I've done it many a time.