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  • AgentAK
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1017

    CMP Garand

    Okay, so I've been thinking about buying a Garand and see that the CMP has service grade S.A.'s for $599. I'd love to be able to buy one locally, but everyone seems to be selling a CMP service grade for around a thousand bucks.
    My question is this; Are the CMP rifles (direct from the CMP) that much inferior to the CMP ones that people are selling?
    "I've always followed my father's advice: he told me, first to always keep my word and, second, to never insult anybody unintentionally. If I insult you, you can be damn sure I intend to. And, third, he told me not to go around looking for trouble."
    ~ John Wayne ~
    When they come a wull staun ma groon...
    Staun ma groon al nae be afraid...


    "Never Again Will One Generation of Veterans Abandon Another"
  • #2
    ke6guj
    Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    Originally posted by AgentAK
    My question is this; Are the CMP rifles (direct from the CMP) that much inferior to the CMP ones that people are selling?
    nope.

    Basically you are paying for the priveledge of immediate gratification (not having to wait the 3-6 months), and not having to jump through the CMP hoops (as minimal as they are) if you buy a CMP rifle from a private party.
    Jack



    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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    • #3
      AgentAK
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 1017

      That's exactly what I wanted to know! Thank's! I can wait to save $500.00! In fact, I could have TWO!
      "I've always followed my father's advice: he told me, first to always keep my word and, second, to never insult anybody unintentionally. If I insult you, you can be damn sure I intend to. And, third, he told me not to go around looking for trouble."
      ~ John Wayne ~
      When they come a wull staun ma groon...
      Staun ma groon al nae be afraid...


      "Never Again Will One Generation of Veterans Abandon Another"

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      • #4
        erblo
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2006
        • 503

        FYI, CMP Garands are getting shipped in about 2-3 months.
        ~erblo

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        • #5
          AgentAK
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 1017

          Originally posted by erblo
          FYI, CMP Garands are getting shipped in about 2-3 months.
          That's not so bad...
          I have family that lives about an hour from Anniston, does anyone know if I can have someone go pick one out for me?
          "I've always followed my father's advice: he told me, first to always keep my word and, second, to never insult anybody unintentionally. If I insult you, you can be damn sure I intend to. And, third, he told me not to go around looking for trouble."
          ~ John Wayne ~
          When they come a wull staun ma groon...
          Staun ma groon al nae be afraid...


          "Never Again Will One Generation of Veterans Abandon Another"

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          • #6
            TRICKSTER
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2008
            • 12438

            Originally posted by AgentAK
            That's not so bad...
            I have family that lives about an hour from Anniston, does anyone know if I can have someone go pick one out for me?
            This link may answer your question.


            Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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            • #7
              AgentAK
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1017

              Originally posted by TRICKSTER
              Very cool! Look's like it would be the way to go! Thank's for the info!
              "I've always followed my father's advice: he told me, first to always keep my word and, second, to never insult anybody unintentionally. If I insult you, you can be damn sure I intend to. And, third, he told me not to go around looking for trouble."
              ~ John Wayne ~
              When they come a wull staun ma groon...
              Staun ma groon al nae be afraid...


              "Never Again Will One Generation of Veterans Abandon Another"

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              • #8
                Jarhead
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 2847

                you will get hooked, I see CMP rifles at Gun Shows all the time for 1K plus for the same rifle - cleaned / dolled up to impress. Better to be patient and get it from CMP. Recommed you get this book and a few of the others to pass the time away, M1 Garand-M14 Shop Manual, by Jerry Kuhnhausen ( Fulton Armory ).

                Here's a few sites you may find interesting:
                Find information, resources and relevant links for billricca.com. This domain may be for sale.

                Nationally recognized M1 Garand rifle specialists, Purveyors of quality M1 rifles, parts, tools and accessories. Our 26th year serving U.S. Rifle Cal. .30 M1 shooters, collectors, and enthusiasts! Springfield Armory M1 Garand, H&R, HRA, Winchester, International Harvester, IHC., as well as m1 carbines and other WWII rifles.



                Scott Duff Publications is your #1 source for firearm handling and operating manuals. Scott Duff is a firearms enthusiast and bookseller.



                Checkout Fulton Armory's full line up of M1 Garand, M1 Carbine and M14/M1A rifles. Shop GI Parts or send your rifle in for gunsmitthing.

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                • #9
                  RudyN
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2285

                  I have a M1 Garand, a M1 Carbine and a M1903A3 all from CMP and it was worth the wait to get them all. As far as I am concerned CMP is the way to go.
                  Rudy N
                  NRA BENEFACTOR MEMBER
                  CRPA MEMBER

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                  • #10
                    campperrykid
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 516

                    Great info:

                    Originally posted by Jarhead
                    you will get hooked, I see CMP rifles at Gun Shows all the time for 1K plus for the same rifle - cleaned / dolled up to impress. Better to be patient and get it from CMP. Recommed you get this book and a few of the others to pass the time away, M1 Garand-M14 Shop Manual, by Jerry Kuhnhausen ( Fulton Armory ).

                    Here's a few sites you may find interesting:
                    Find information, resources and relevant links for billricca.com. This domain may be for sale.

                    Nationally recognized M1 Garand rifle specialists, Purveyors of quality M1 rifles, parts, tools and accessories. Our 26th year serving U.S. Rifle Cal. .30 M1 shooters, collectors, and enthusiasts! Springfield Armory M1 Garand, H&R, HRA, Winchester, International Harvester, IHC., as well as m1 carbines and other WWII rifles.



                    Scott Duff Publications is your #1 source for firearm handling and operating manuals. Scott Duff is a firearms enthusiast and bookseller.



                    http://www.fulton-armory.com/
                    CMP sells M1 Carbines as well.
                    Bill Ricca sells re-prints of the old military shop manuals , plus parts, tools & gear. One of the most knowledgable Garand/ M1 Carbine guys in the world. He has been on the wrong end of a Garand ( RVN) .
                    The two best ( IMO ) first 2 books to buy:
                    " The M1 Carbine Owner's Guide " by Larry L. Ruth w/ Scott Duff.
                    " The M1 Garand Owner's Guide " by Scott A.Duff.

                    The ROKs plan to release around 640,000 US made Carbines over the next 10 years or so. That should stabilize prices. Great news for most of us.

                    Bad news for people who bought 10 CMP Carbines a year to sell at scalper prices later.

                    " ... in common use at the time , for all lawful purposes , including self defense . "
                    Tony from New York .

                    Conflict Resolution 201:
                    Pickaxe Handles Rule , The Battleship Missouri is usually a serious attention getter with more clout than just it's weapons/armor/mobility could generate. South Korean volunteers with Claymores strapped to thier chests and clackers in hand are a clear indication of Allied resolve. Puts the ! on the end of :
                    Don't MESS with US !

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                    • #11
                      Jarhead
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 2847

                      IF the ROK Carbines are in usual S. Korean shape the will be rough, never seen a Carbine or Garand that were not rough - CMP is still the BEST buy - just my opinion for what I have seen.

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                      • #12
                        RaceDay
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 1013

                        Originally posted by ke6guj
                        nope.

                        Basically you are paying for the priveledge of immediate gratification (not having to wait the 3-6 months), and not having to jump through the CMP hoops (as minimal as they are) if you buy a CMP rifle from a private party.
                        +1 to that. It astounds me that people will spend so much more rather than meet the CMP requirements. Go shooting and get the RO to sign your form. You are already at the range... yeesh. Or even shoot a match or just use a C&R if you have one. The other stuff like copy of passport and notary ($10 once every 3 years) are easy.

                        I think my second to last CMP gun is the nicest (HRA SG). But my latest purchase was the best deal-- SG Winchester Garand that looks a little rough but also came with Winchester stock and bbl and an uncot op rod. I hit the lottery on that one.

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                        • #13
                          campperrykid
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 516

                          Won't get any argument out of me about CMP:
                          Originally posted by Jarhead
                          IF the ROK Carbines are in usual S. Korean shape the will be rough, never seen a Carbine or Garand that were not rough - CMP is still the BEST buy - just my opinion for what I have seen.
                          CMP is the best deal in town. Good prices , great customer service , and every dime of profit goes into into future support for shooting in the US.

                          I also have to admit that the Blue Sky M1 Carbine that I hand picked in New York ( Middletown/OrangeCounty/Newburgh area ) back in 1989 or so had some really beat-up wood. It had been re-parked in US. It turned out to be a very good shooter with a little work , but the stock was a total loss.
                          I'll post about another Blue Sky some other time.
                          " ... in common use at the time , for all lawful purposes , including self defense . "
                          Tony from New York .

                          Conflict Resolution 201:
                          Pickaxe Handles Rule , The Battleship Missouri is usually a serious attention getter with more clout than just it's weapons/armor/mobility could generate. South Korean volunteers with Claymores strapped to thier chests and clackers in hand are a clear indication of Allied resolve. Puts the ! on the end of :
                          Don't MESS with US !

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                          • #14
                            Dr.Mauser
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1862

                            Since we're on the CMP topic, Im thinking about getting me an M1 Carbine from them, but i dont understand the process that they "require" should i wait or buy one locally?
                            !!WANT TO BUY and looking for shooter/beater/reenacting grade German Waffen proofed handguns from the WWII era. I just want shooters, Im not looking to spend oodles of money, I just want shootable examples to play with!!

                            !!!Also looking for a shooter/rack grade USGI M1 Carbine (Earlier the date the better)!!!

                            Wanna help me out? Email me at: mauser3340@gmail.com

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                            • #15
                              ke6guj
                              Moderator
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 23725

                              Just follow the eligibilty requirements, http://www.thecmp.org/eligibility.htm
                              And fill out the order form, http://www.thecmp.org/pdfs/OrderForm1_09Fill.pdf

                              Its not that hard, join a CMP-affiliated club like CRPA, http://www.crpa.org/ , do some shooting, get your order form notarized and send in the order with your $$$. Wait ~3 months for the Fedex driver to deliver your carbine to your door.
                              Jack



                              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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