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  • hundy
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jun 2013
    • 550

    S&W Victory model

    I was able to acquire a S&W Victory model handgun. It is chambered in 38 S&W, so from what I read it was probably a Lend-Lease handgun and sent to Britian or one of the ANZAC's. Although, I do not know for sure, I base this on the caliber. A lot of US versions were 38 special and the 38 S&W was sent to our allies.

    I was wondering can you use 38 special in the handgun? They do fit the chamber. I did read that the bullet is a slightly larger diameter in 38S&W. I .360 (38S&W) .358 (38spec). I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this.

    Thank you,

    Jay
  • #2
    risingsun212
    Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 305

    38 special is too long for the cylinder.

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    • #3
      THBailey
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 737

      38 S&W is shorter and fatter than 38 SPL and the bullets are different sizes. For more detail: https://trueshotammo.com/38-sw-vs-38...al-comparison/
      THBailey


      As Will Rogers once said:
      "Everyone is ignorant, only in different subjects."

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      • #4
        Wyatt Burp
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 1317

        I think the gun Oswald used to kill that policeman before getting caught used a Victory Model .38 S&W converted to .38 Special. I recall seeing these converted guns later in my dad?s old gun magazine surplus ads. I always assumed they weren?t that accurate since the bores were slightly larger as mentioned above. except up close like Oswald was.

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        • #5
          hundy
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jun 2013
          • 550

          Originally posted by risingsun212
          38 special is too long for the cylinder.
          I actually thought that same thing when I picked it up. Amazingly, they fit and are not too long. I put some in out of curiosity, they did not protrude out the end of the cylinder at all.

          I found some 38 S&W for sale on one site that will deliver to me, so I bought one box as they were expensive. I figure another box in the future and that is plenty to reload for the one revolver.

          Thank you,

          Jay

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          • #6
            highpower
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2012
            • 5294

            If .38 Specials fit, the cylinder has probably already been reamed out. You can shoot them in it, but the case will be buldged. Not really a problem if you don’t plan to reload.
            MLC member.

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            • #7
              morrcarr67
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2010
              • 14999

              Originally posted by hundy
              I was able to acquire a S&W Victory model handgun. It is chambered in 38 S&W, so from what I read it was probably a Lend-Lease handgun and sent to Britian or one of the ANZAC's. Although, I do not know for sure, I base this on the caliber. A lot of US versions were 38 special and the 38 S&W was sent to our allies.

              I was wondering can you use 38 special in the handgun? They do fit the chamber. I did read that the bullet is a slightly larger diameter in 38S&W. I .360 (38S&W) .358 (38spec). I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this.

              Thank you,


              Jay
              Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

              Originally posted by Erion929

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              • #8
                63 tango
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1015

                Not trying to steal the thread but I got this one about a month ago, Its not military marked. Its a 38 special.
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                • #9
                  hundy
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 550

                  Sorry, here are some pics of the S&W Victory model I was able to acquire. I did plan on posting pictures originally, but on that day the simple post itself took forever. This site was so slow that day. Even today it took me 12 minutes to load these pictures up, the upload screen keep timing out.
                  This site has been very slow lately.
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                  • #10
                    denpython
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 1893

                    Looks to be in nice shape. I will keep an eye out at the range for spent 38 s&w brass.
                    NRA Life Member, GOA member

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                    • #11
                      pitfighter
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 3141

                      It's relatively easy to figure out which nation was issued your Victory model.

                      See the "D (arrow) D" - that's the Australian marking.
                      English proofs are below and to the left.


                      Mine is an Aussie one.
                      There's some old S&W .38 there, too.


                      They are cool revolvers, and will always be collectable IMO.
                      Pitfighter.
                      CA/AZ

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                      • #12
                        Sauermonkey
                        Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 322

                        re

                        Originally posted by 63 tango
                        Not trying to steal the thread but I got this one about a month ago, Its not military marked. Its a 38 special.
                        Nice Revolver but it looks pre-war does it have a V prefix in the serial number?
                        The finish on yours appears to be blued the correct finish for a US Military contract Victory in .38 special would be a dull phosphate finish known as black magic like in the photo




                        Last edited by Sauermonkey; 03-28-2024, 7:52 PM.

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                        • #13
                          63 tango
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 1015

                          Originally posted by Sauermonkey
                          Nice Revolver but it looks pre-war does it have a V prefix in the serial number?
                          The finish on yours appears to be blued the correct finish for a US Military contract Victory in .38 special would be a dull phosphate finish known as black magic like in the photo




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                          Yes it does have a V prefix

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                          • #14
                            Sauermonkey
                            Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 322

                            re

                            Originally posted by 63 tango
                            Yes it does have a V prefix
                            Very nice looks like it will be a good shooter also The US Navy was the biggest end user of the .38 special Victorys and they had added a hammer block safety later in production after a sailor dropped one and had accidental discharge.
                            Last edited by Sauermonkey; 10-12-2023, 6:10 PM.

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                            • #15
                              ojisan
                              Agent 86
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 11757

                              Great info, jump to 1941 section for Victory stuff.

                              I have pulled this information together from various sources. As I have been, in most cases, unable to get exact serial numbers, I have designated them as approximate. Please correct my information if you have better numbers or information than I have provided, as I make no representation that...

                              Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                              I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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