Anyone order MDL 59 SKS's from Century?

[fastsvt1998]

A friend got a few and the quality was so so. Just wondering if anyone else has any that they can share the condition on. They were listed as good condition. Rifling looked strong but bores were very dark with lots of crap in it even after heavy cleaning. Anyone else?

[Exiledviking]

Oh yeah...

If they consider that good condition...
Mine is now with Century getting fixed...I hope.
Wouldn't extract or eject.

Hopefully they will get it fixed.

[Altahick]

my mdl 59 is prety good, after some cleaning and refinishing the stock it looks good, and shoots even beter!!

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Oh yeah...

If they consider that good condition...

Here is Century's definition of "Good" off of their web site...

Good: 25-50% blue remaining, stocks marred (several dings in wood) bores slightly worn and dark, no corrosion that will interfere with proper functioning. Complete and in working condition.

Which is pretty close to "Good" on the NRA firearm grading system...

GOOD: Some minor replacement parts; metal smoothly rusted or lightly pitted in places, cleaned or reblued; principal lettering, numerals, and design on metal legible; wood refinished, scratched, bruised, or minor cracks repaired; in good working order.

Dark bores are more common on Yugo SKS's because they don't have chrome lined bores. Now that Century is down to just "Good" M59's, you might be better off waiting to find one locally that you can inspect first.

[fastsvt1998]

The wood and outside metal looked great. He just cant get the bore clean. Any ideas for a really dirty bore? If the bore is dark, does it affect accuracy?

[762cavalier]

Is Century actually shipping M59 sks.s to C&R holders here in CA.Technically they aren't over 50 years old yet so are not eligible to be sent to C&R holders in CA

[Mssr. Eleganté]

He just cant get the bore clean. Any ideas for a really dirty bore?

Some folks have luck with Outers Foaming Bore Cleaner. Be carefull to plug the gas hole in the barrel first. If you want to go all out, you could build yourself an electric bore cleaner to clean the bore through electrolysis. It is described in tip #5 at the link below...

http://www.mausercentral.com/gunsmithtips.htm

I think one of the gun cleaning product companies even sells a ready made kit for this. But the easiest way to get a bore to shine is to just shoot 2 or 3 thousand rounds through it.

If the bore is dark, does it affect accuracy?

It can, but you never know. I have an Enfield with a very dark and pitted bore that shoots much better than most of my Enfields with pristine bores. Often the crown of the barrel will be much more important than the bore. But dark and pitted bores take forever to get clean after a day of shooting. You can never really get to the point where patches come out clean. You just have to set a limit and stop cleaning at some point.

[fastsvt1998]

But dark and pitted bores take forever to get clean after a day of shooting. You can never really get to the point where patches come out clean. You just have to set a limit and stop cleaning at some point.

Exactly, never seen the patches come out exactly clean. Do you mind explaining a little more about the crown and it's effects on accuracy?

[Exiledviking]

Complete and in working condition.

I could live with the "condition" of the Century SKS IF it functioned
properly.

[Altahick]

I could live with the "condition" of the Century SKS IF it functioned
properly.

mine functions very well, i have alot of rounds down the barrel, and it has never let me down, and is prety accurate, i can hit an 12inch plate at 200yds with iron sights

[bwiese]

Let's get our terminology right.

These Zastava M59s are Simonov-pattern rifles. They are not SKSes except when the colloquial (and incorrect) terminology is used.

This will be important soon.

[VeryCoolCat]

Is Century actually shipping M59 sks.s to C&R holders here in CA.Technically they aren't over 50 years old yet so are not eligible to be sent to C&R holders in CA

There was something a while back that Yugo SKSs weren't technically C&R because of the year of manufacture but the BATF considers them C&R so theres a debate to that. Also I remember hearing that the BATF recognizes 59/66 w/ the grenade launchers cut off/welded over as still C&R but many shops want to stay safe so they don't bring this issue up.

[VeryCoolCat]

Let's get our terminology right.

These Zastava M59s are Simonov-pattern rifles. They are not SKSes except when the colloquial (and incorrect) terminology is used.

This will be important soon.

If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and shoots like a duck... it might very well be a different species of duck.

EDIT: Hehehehe OOOH I figured out what you meant

[maxicon]

There was something a while back that Yugo SKSs weren't technically C&R because of the year of manufacture but the BATF considers them C&R so theres a debate to that. Also I remember hearing that the BATF recognizes 59/66 w/ the grenade launchers cut off/welded over as still C&R but many shops want to stay safe so they don't bring this issue up.

Technically, long gun C&R status doesn't matter in California law, only age.

The Yugos are on the federal C&R list, even though they're less than 50 years old, so citizens of free states can order them via C&R. In California, it's the manufacture date that matters, not the federal status, and these were made starting in 1959, so they're not available in CA except through an 01 FFL transfer yet.

Likewise, modifications don't matter in California - only when the receiver was manufactured (and the lack of a grenade launcher, of course).

max

[fastsvt1998]

Im was told by a doj person via email(dumb me deleteted it) that if it was on the federal list, CA rec. it as C&R except assault weapons.