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  • #61
    Turbinator
    Administrator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 11930

    Originally posted by Librarian
    If, as earlier discussed, one wants to 'sell' ATF on it, then having is the same would be an important aspect.

    Otherwise, it serves perfectly well as-is. Thanks for the work!
    You're welcome. I'm looking forward to more people picking this up and using it. Maybe sizing it down slightly is in order. I didn't get a chance last night, but perhaps this weekend.

    I wouldn't know where to go to get the ATF to start using it. I figure if more citizens start turning in these typed forms, they'll go investigate from where it came, and then ask that way? Let's get it widely used first, then we'll go from there.

    Anyone want to cross post it to AR15.com and elsewhere?

    Turby

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    • #62
      Mazilla
      Banned
      • Feb 2009
      • 479

      I sent my forms out yesteday, Thanks for the help!!!!

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      • #63
        bongfoo
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 969

        got a question... there are 7 pages in the PDF. it looks like there are 2 copies. now my question is... do i seperate the 2 copies in the pdf send1 to the BATF and 1 to the local CLEO? or do i have to send a seperate copy of the entire 7 pages to the CLEO?

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        • #64
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44627

          Separate the 7 pages - send the one WITHOUT credit card info to the CLEO.
          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #65
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            the first 2 double-sided pages (4-pages total) are the ATF copy, while the second set of 2 double-sided pages are for the CLEO.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #66
              bongfoo
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 969

              sweet thanks! i'm glad i printed this out at work instead of waisting ink and paper here at home! lol this is going out in the mail tomorrow!

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              • #67
                Inoxmark
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 740

                Don't know if any licenses have been issued to the PDF applicants yet, but they seem to charge credit cards almost immediately upon receipt of the application, good sign hopefully!

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                • #68
                  Turbinator
                  Administrator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 11930

                  Originally posted by bongfoo
                  sweet thanks! i'm glad i printed this out at work instead of waisting ink and paper here at home! lol this is going out in the mail tomorrow!
                  Thanks for using the PDF form, the more users there are, the better.

                  Now, I have a question, the instructions that I also scanned that go along with the application, I guess they aren't clear what to do? (Just checking - I don't mean this as an insult, but...) On the instruction sheet, item # 3, it tells you what to do with the CLEO copy. Did you happen to read this? Item #2 tells you what to do with the "original" copy.

                  I only ask because I want to make sure this thing is nearly bulletproof.

                  Thanks,
                  Turby

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                  • #69
                    ke6guj
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                    • Nov 2003
                    • 23725

                    Turby, the thing I noticed is that BATE put "copy 1 - ATF copy" and "copy 2 - CLEO" on the front of each page, since it wouldn't be needed on the back of the double-sided page. With the PDF being 7 pages, not all of them note what copy they are. Plus the red font didn't scan very dark.
                    Jack



                    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                    • #70
                      Turbinator
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                      • Oct 2005
                      • 11930

                      Originally posted by ke6guj
                      Turby, the thing I noticed is that BATE put "copy 1 - ATF copy" and "copy 2 - CLEO" on the front of each page, since it wouldn't be needed on the back of the double-sided page. With the PDF being 7 pages, not all of them note what copy they are. Plus the red font didn't scan very dark.
                      Thanks. I guess I can either rescan it, or type some text onto the form to indicate which is which. I'll take a look at it...

                      Turby

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                      • #71
                        H3llpl3ss
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 271

                        Well, my co-worker got his 03FFl yesterday using the PDF forms. Mine is going to be a while as I forgot to initial some things. But now we know that it works.

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                        • #72
                          zachary2287
                          Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 162

                          Originally posted by H3llpl3ss
                          Mine is going to be a while as I forgot to initial some things.
                          I did almost the same thing. I checked a few boxes instead of initialing. It took an extra three weeks.

                          Great to hear that this works though. This should make it a lot easier for people to start getting their 03s now that they don't have to wait months just for the application.
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                          • #73
                            Turbinator
                            Administrator
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 11930

                            Originally posted by H3llpl3ss
                            Well, my co-worker got his 03FFl yesterday using the PDF forms. Mine is going to be a while as I forgot to initial some things. But now we know that it works.
                            That is awesome validation that the PDF form works. Thank you very much for the feedback!

                            Turby

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                            • #74
                              mievil
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1788

                              Awesome that we can now save the form. Well, originally I couldn't and I didn't install a new reader, so it couldn't have been on my end.

                              Couple little annoyances: All the "X" marks that I put on the questionaire were in the most part different sizes. I would have liked to see them all the same font size. But that's not a real issue as just part of my perfectionist-ism.

                              In the 5 year address section, when you hit tab, it skips around. Not consecutive write blocks.

                              ***Edit Nothing to see here, move along. haha

                              BTW, this is fantastic for you to have done. I misplaced my green form waiting for a new job and finding out that this PDF actually works, can be typed and saved in, is just awesome.
                              Last edited by mievil; 05-20-2009, 11:13 PM.

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                              • #75
                                ke6guj
                                Moderator
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                                • Nov 2003
                                • 23725

                                Originally posted by mievil
                                , It would be awesome if you could do a 5330.20 as well.
                                :
                                what for? The CoC is built into the current C&R app.

                                But anyways, here you go, http://www.atf.gov/forms/pdfs/f533020.pdf
                                Jack



                                Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                                No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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