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  • Red9
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    • Sep 2014
    • 2892

    Mauser red9 ?

    I did it. Paid too much but ... Local shop had some lugers and this broom handle in 9mm. Was torn, artillery luger? Or broom handle 9mm?
    Ended going with the red9.
    My first broom a yone have some tips?
    Hope it was a better choice vs that sweet luger.

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    Syntax Error
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    • Nov 2009
    • 3817

    Nice, they look pretty good from the photos. How much were they if you don't mind me asking?

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      Grendl
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      • Jun 2009
      • 1657

      Beauty! A real Red 9 is on my bucket list.

      The photos are too blurry to tell; does the serial # fall between 1-150,000 and is it a 50-500M sight?
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      • #4
        Syntax Error
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        • Nov 2009
        • 3817

        Originally posted by Grendl
        Beauty! A real Red 9 is on my bucket list.

        The photos are too blurry to tell; does the serial # fall between 1-150,000 and is it a 50-500M sight?
        The sight is definitely a 50-500m model. Less graduations and wider slots between each graduated marker is a clear sign of the 500m sight. Probably is a legit Red 9.

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          Red9
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          • Sep 2014
          • 2892

          Originally posted by Syntax Error
          Nice, they look pretty good from the photos. How much were they if you don't mind me asking?
          Mauser asking price of 3500. Paid 3 plus dros and tax 3300.00.

          Short luger, lower left 2500 non negotiating.

          Artillery, asking 3500 but would take 3k.

          Us made luger 5500 eek!

          I went in for the shorty luger at 2500. Then the artillery. Owner talked me into the red 9. Claimed it is rare, and the condition is pretty good. No rust or pitting.

          It was more than I wanted to spend. But my kids will be happy after im gone. Lol.

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            Red9
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            • Sep 2014
            • 2892

            Originally posted by Grendl
            Beauty! A real Red 9 is on my bucket list.

            The photos are too blurry to tell; does the serial # fall between 1-150,000 and is it a 50-500M sight?
            Serial is 137** . Any guess when it was made?

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              Syntax Error
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              • Nov 2009
              • 3817

              Originally posted by dkonrai
              Serial is 137** . Any guess when it was made?

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              All Mauser "Red 9" Prussian Contract Broomhandles were made during the First World War, roughly between 1916-1918 as auxiliary weapons to be issued to officers as an ersatz weapon to the standard-issue Luger P-08, as war tends to create shortages of anything in standard issue, the Luger was no exception.

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                Red9
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                • Sep 2014
                • 2892

                Originally posted by Syntax Error
                All Mauser "Red 9" Prussian Contract Broomhandles were made during the First World War, roughly between 1916-1918 as auxiliary weapons to be issued to officers as an ersatz weapon to the standard-issue Luger P-08, as war tends to create shortages of anything in standard issue, the Luger was no exception.
                Thank you! I'm guessing it is uncommon?
                I read only 135k were made? If thats the case 3300 wasent too bad a price. [emoji2]

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                  Syntax Error
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                  • Nov 2009
                  • 3817

                  Originally posted by dkonrai
                  Thank you! I'm guessing it is uncommon?
                  I read only 135k were made? If thats the case 3300 wasent too bad a price. [emoji2]

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                  I think 150k were made for the Prussian contract in 9mm, but course it remains a question how many still survive in good condition after two world wars.

                  If you plan on shooting it, I would get a full Wolff spring kit for the gun, as Broomhandles require factory spec springs in order to fire safely and not beat the gun to death.

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                    Red9
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                    • Sep 2014
                    • 2892

                    Originally posted by Syntax Error
                    I think 150k were made for the Prussian contract in 9mm, but course it remains a question how many still survive in good condition after two world wars.

                    If you plan on shooting it, I would get a full Wolff spring kit for the gun, as Broomhandles require factory spec springs in order to fire safely and not beat the gun to death.
                    Thanks for the tip. Brownells? For the springs?

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                      Syntax Error
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                      • Nov 2009
                      • 3817

                      The full spring kit from Woff Gunsprings have worked well for me in multiple broomhandles that I have refurbished to shooting condition.



                      The most important spring being the hammer spring, as it is the strength of the hammer spring that retards the bolt travel rearwards as it recoil back when firing, which would then spare the bolt stop from taking a pounding. If the bolt stop (or the bolt stop reciever extension) were to shear off, you'd get the bolt flying back into your face under recoil. Not good.
                      Last edited by Syntax Error; 04-23-2019, 6:21 PM.

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                        Red9
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                        • Sep 2014
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                        Originally posted by Syntax Error
                        The full spring kit from Woff Gunsprings have worked well for me in multiple broomhandles that I have refurbished to shooting condition.



                        The most important spring being the hammer spring, as it is the strength of the hammer spring that retards the bolt travel rearwards as it recoil back when firing, which would then spare the bolt stop from taking a pounding. If the bolt stop (or the bolt stop reciever extension) were to shear off, you'd get the bolt flying back into your face under recoil. Not good.
                        Is it ok? Regarding year made? Can I use that pack on the 1916? When I looked up the next block of years, no 9mm was shown vs the 1911 date?


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                          EMR
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                            Red9
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                            • Sep 2014
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                            Is it ok to shoot factory ammo? Or reloads on the mild side? Leadheads ok?

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                              Red9
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                              • Sep 2014
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                              Lol I went in for the luger... Never knew about the 9 broomy from Germany. I knew china made them, but to see that German mark [emoji2]0 like sophies choice!

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