C&R 03-FFL + COE Privileges in 2019 California

[semilin]

Sorry to use the word "privilege" to represent the right we should have. Anyway, I can't find a clear list of all current valid privileges for 03-FFL + COE holder in California. These are some information here and there but most of them were posted quite long ago. Since the gun law changes so frequently these years, those posts may base on old law and not be valid now. Here I would like to have a summary and see if I miss something. Hopefully, this will also benefit people who are new and have spent $100+ to get 03-FFL + COE.

1. Purchase Ammo
* Purchase ammo online and ship to door
* Purchase ammo out of state and transport to CA

2. Purchase C&R long gun in-state from a non-licensees
* No need to go thru 01-FFL DROS, report within 30 days of possession

3. Purchase C&R long gun or C&R handgun out state and transport to CA
* No need to go thru 01-FFL DROS, report within 5 days of transporting

4. Purchase C&R long gun or C&R handgun from in-state 01-FFL
* DROS, with no 10 days waiting period

5. Purchase C&R handgun or modern handgun from in-state 01-FFL
* DROS, with no 1 in 30 days limitation

6. Discount from online retailers, such as Brownells, Numrich, Century etc




--Please correct me if my understanding is wrong, or anything is missing. Thanks!

[watt79]

Number 3 applies to both handguns and long guns.

[pterrell]

AFAIK, 1 in 30 still will apply for non C&R guns but will not for C&R guns.

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[SkyHawk]

6). Discounted pricing from Brownells, Numrich, Century and others

And at Brownells you can stack their coupon codes onto your already discounted pricing.

[John Browning]

You are exempt from the one in thirty on ALL purchases. The law is clearly written this way but CA DOJ hated it, so they just stopped allowing it. They got sued, they lost, and now you can buy as many handguns at a time as your bank account allows. The law clearly says you must have an (as in any) FFL and COE for 1 in 30 exemption.

It would have been nice had this been in place during the SSE days, but oh well.

NOTE: If you buy more than one in 30, the way the system is set up you have to have the dealer select C&R FFL/COE exempt to buy more than one modern handgun every 30 days. The way the DOJ "fixed" the system will also tell the dealer to go ahead and deliver the handguns. If they are modern, my understanding is that they still have to stay there for 240 hours. I leave them for 10 days at the dealer even though the CA DOJ DROS system says to release them.

[Jwalt]

Purchase ammunition out of state and physically transport back into state.

This is my primary consideration in pursuing C&R and COE, so if I'm wrong someone please correct me. I routinely travel to AZ and NV, and sometimes ammo is much cheaper/more available.

[John Browning]

Purchase ammunition out of state and physically transport back into state.

This is my primary consideration in pursuing C&R and COE, so if I'm wrong someone please correct me. I routinely travel to AZ and NV, and sometimes ammo is much cheaper/more available.

Nope, you're right.

[pterrell]

You are exempt from the one in thirty on ALL purchases. The law is clearly written this way but CA DOJ hated it, so they just stopped allowing it. They got sued, they lost, and now you can buy as many handguns at a time as your bank account allows. The law clearly says you must have an (as in any) FFL and COE for 1 in 30 exemption.

It would have been nice had this been in place during the SSE days, but oh well.

NOTE: If you buy more than one in 30, the way the system is set up you have to have the dealer select C&R FFL/COE exempt to buy more than one modern handgun every 30 days. The way the DOJ "fixed" the system will also tell the dealer to go ahead and deliver the handguns. If they are modern, my understanding is that they still have to stay there for 240 hours. I leave them for 10 days at the dealer even though the CA DOJ DROS system says to release them.

That explains it. Back when I was still in CA (during the SSE days) I had my 03/COE. Bought all kinds of C&R pistols but was limited on my SSE's. Glad to hear there was one small fix made.

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[Ducky's Dad]

What about purchasing C&R long gun online or over the phone, in-state or out of state, and having it shipped directly to 03-FFL in CA?

[John Browning]

What about purchasing C&R long gun online or over the phone, in-state or out of state, and having it shipped directly to 03-FFL in CA?

All online purchases, over the phone, etc. now must apparently go to an 01 FFL. I'm honestly not sure why, but that is what the CA DOJ is now saying. You go there and do the transfer and then take it with you with no wait.

The upside to this is that when you send in a form you get to wait nervously for up to six months while the CA DOJ hopefully processes and returns the registration to you. I hate that. You know that processing it at an 01 you are all registered and GTG.

[CessnaDriver]

Last time I checked it was ok to have CA resident non-licensee ship directly to CA resident FFL03 within CA? Did this change? Or is it now nebulous?

[CessnaDriver]

A benefit also is that you can use the fact you are a collector with valuable firearms and when you purchase you give your info to at times to members of the general population. This could help with CCW justification.

[semilin]

Number 3 applies to both handguns and long guns.

Thanks! Updated.

[EM2]

Thanks for the list.
I just applied for the FFL-03 & COE.

[semilin]

The upside to this is that when you send in a form you get to wait nervously for up to six months while the CA DOJ hopefully processes and returns the registration to you. I hate that. You know that processing it at an 01 you are all registered and GTG.

But usually, you need to pay a transfer fee or handling fee to the 01 in additional to the $25 DROS.