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  • pitfighter
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 3141

    A curio dagger -

    Here is the Model 2 John Ek Commando knife (WW2 dated) that I picked up - theater made scabbard - (I am looking for an M6 scabbard - which I think would be more appropriate, made by the same leather maker that made the original Ek scabbards.)

    The rivets are poured lead, so that you can hammer them tight, should anything ever loosen them I guess.

    Look at that lovely one piece tang/blade - the history and style of these knives really appeals to me.
    A fierce patriot who failed the draft because of a physical handicap, Ek did what he could for the war effort by building "American made" fighting knives, he also supposedly made a point of hiring the physically impaired, including a blind person who used his fingers to test for imperfections in the blades.

    These were knives I paid little attention to until...
    ...I actually held one.

    "...It is reported that President Franklin D. Roosevelt kept a John Ek Commando Knife on his desk in the White House until the time of his death. General George S. Patton, Jr. owned a John Ek Commando Knife (as did several of his subordinates); Ek eventually named his Model No. 6 the "Patton Knife". Captain Clark Gable, while not necessarily expecting to see combat, purchased a number of Ek Knives while he served..."

    Just great Knives.





    Ek was serial numbering these knives way ahead of the competition.
    All of the knives made during WWII by Ek were numbered to help the owners keep track of them if they were lost, and because he guaranteed each knife for the lifetime of the original owner.
    By keeping the original owner's name on record, he could follow up his lifetime guarantee system. Ek had very strong feelings about restricting his knives to active-duty US servicemen.
    The serial on mine is Dagger type "2" - "O" = 15th letter of alphabet, so 15,000 +15 - serial # = knife # 15,015


    If you are interested in reading more on John Ek Commando Knives, this is a nice piece:
    What did General George S. Patton, Jr., President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Clark Gable and a number of members of the Assault Brigade 2506 (of Bay of Pigs fame) all have in common? As you can probably guess from the subject, they all owned Ek Commando knives. It is said that President Roosevelt kep...


    Here are some in auction:

    Last edited by pitfighter; 03-25-2018, 5:34 PM.
    Pitfighter.
    CA/AZ
  • #2
    BrokerB
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 5324

    Looks dangerous to stab with
    Beans and Bullets

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    • #3
      pitfighter
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 3141

      Looks can be deceiving -

      The handle is one of the best I have ever held.

      Of all the fighting knives pictured below, the John Ek is by far and away the most alive in the hand.

      Pitfighter.
      CA/AZ

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      • #4
        E Michael
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 2513

        Nice looking collection, I have thought about collecting knifes, but ya know..... ammo.

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        • #5
          hambam105
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2013
          • 7083

          Movie, Searchers, "Boy, now you watch that knife.'' Ward Bond. The guy wearing the funny looking black hat and carrying a Bible.

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          • #6
            big red
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 1234

            Nice looking set of knives but be careful because now almost any knife you wear can get you shot or in trouble and if brown signs that new law I believe even legal knives/sharp objects will be banned and subject you to arrest. In two years time the state wants to totally disarm anyone in public including box cutters.

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            • #7
              pitfighter
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 3141

              Originally posted by big red
              Nice looking set of knives but be careful because now almost any knife you wear can get you shot or in trouble and if brown signs that new law I believe even legal knives/sharp objects will be banned and subject you to arrest. In two years time the state wants to totally disarm anyone in public including box cutters.
              As "double-edged daggers or dirks," these are already all illegal to carry in CA.
              The "Gravity knife" is also a quantifiable offense, actually only allowed in a collection, and don't get me started on the "knuckle-duster-dagger," were you to get caught wearing that.
              Besides...

              The Ek's are $1000 and up collectables, the FS First Patterns are all over $2000 - these are collectable fighting-knives, not working or every day carry knives.

              One collects these knives because of their place in history, because for a brief period England used the FS as a symbol of ultimate-resistance, issuing it to the Home-Guard who in the event of an invasion would become a partisan-force, killing German occupiers with daggers if necessary. Or, because the Ek was built by a patriot who had spent his life designing quality work knives and who after 1941 committed himself to helping US soldiers, by giving them the best fighting knife he could conceive of and manufacture, at great expense, by hand with difficult to locate materials.

              I carry a cold steel folder for work.
              But, I hear you.
              Last edited by pitfighter; 03-26-2018, 9:12 AM.
              Pitfighter.
              CA/AZ

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              • #8
                Grendl
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 1657

                A true thing of beauty!
                YOU NEED A GUN TRUST.

                TLCGunTrust@gmail.com
                Nothing I post here constitutes legal advice, nor can it establish an attorney/client relationship.

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                • #9
                  Saigon1965
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 17276

                  Nice knives Pit -

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                  • #10
                    pitfighter
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 3141

                    Originally posted by Saigon1965
                    Nice knives Pit -
                    That ugly POS on the bottom row, far left, is an MOD Arctic Survival knife, a million years ago as a Duke Of Edinburgh's Regiment Cadet that was THE knife we all wanted. It has a massively thick, full tang blade, is near indestructible and made from a carbon steel, that will hold a razors edge, mine will shave the hairs from my arm - you were allowed to smooth the wood to fit your hand, hence the "overhang" where it meets the tang. You could chop a tree down with it, and we shown how to use a club to smack the back of the blade into heavy lumber.

                    I found that unissued one, and boy, it is just an awful knife, immensely heavy, impractical and silly, with the single worst scabbard ever designed. But I include it because for a while they were really hard to locate.



                    Last edited by pitfighter; 04-02-2018, 10:25 AM.
                    Pitfighter.
                    CA/AZ

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                    • #11
                      capt14k
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 1301

                      I too collect American Fighting Knives. Congrats on the Ek. Ek and Randall are the cream of the crop. I own neither. Maybe one day.

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                      • #12
                        pitfighter
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 3141

                        Originally posted by capt14k
                        I too collect American Fighting Knives. Congrats on the Ek. Ek and Randall are the cream of the crop. I own neither. Maybe one day.

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                        Thanks Capt,

                        I have hunted for an Ek for a while -
                        The Gerber MkII is another of my favorites.
                        I have some M3 daggers - but they are too profligate for my snobbish taste.
                        The SOG team daggers, bought from Japan are interesting, too.

                        Here is my Vietnam commemorative beside my 1973 original:


                        Here are two sweet FS second pattern daggers for comparison (mine.)


                        The Marine raider, the FS copy is OK, but a poorly designed handle, that tends to crack, crumble and break down over time.

                        The all time rarity and the one that every US knife collector would trade his whole collection for is of course the V42.
                        The V-42 stiletto was issued during World War II to the First Special Service Force (1st SSF, a.k.a. Devil's Brigade), a joint Canadian/American commando unit. The dagger in the center of the Green Beret Crest, surrounded by "De Opresso Liber"

                        It has an incredible hollow ground blade, that truly is the pinnacle of this sort of collecting - I have $5K aside, right now for one in any condition, lol.

                        Note the really unique scabbard*
                        (Not my knife - pulled off the inter web.)





                        Swords are fun, too - (mine.)


                        Isn't it fun to post knife images - I hate posting pics of guns - so incriminating, I don't care who knows about my fighting-steel - lol.
                        Last edited by pitfighter; 03-31-2018, 11:11 PM.
                        Pitfighter.
                        CA/AZ

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                        • #13
                          pitfighter
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 3141

                          I swapped out that odd-looking handmade scabbard.
                          Found this "salty" (but awesome) M6 scabbard on a less desirable WW2 Taylor Eye Witness Commando dagger (someone trimmed the top and bottom leather) - swapped it out to use on the Ek.
                          According to Ek's son the M6 scabbards were made by the same manufacturer as the original John Ek leather - so this works for me and the date is good, too!





                          Pitfighter.
                          CA/AZ

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                          • #14
                            onelonehorseman
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 4888

                            Cool collection OP!
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                            • #15
                              NaClAddict
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 1191

                              Not sure of authenticity or price but someone here might be interested.

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