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  • #31
    Discogodfather
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2010
    • 5516

    I'm a South American Mauser collector, and it's the focus of my collection. The name is misleading because people think they were made in South America. Almost all were made in Germany and Belgium, and then sent to their respective countries. They are exquisite, going back to the beginning of Mauser as a company, and they are offered at a fraction of the price of so called "European" rifles. They are in some cases much finer than the best European guns, and on average are in much better condition.

    For instance, you can pick up a Brazilian 1908 in decent shape for $350 or so. For $1000 you can have your pick of FN made Venezuelan, etc. They all shoot the marvelous 7mm cartridge, one of the original Paul Mauser designed cartridges and the one he favored. It's a much better cartridge than the 8mm in my opinion.

    Other than that, Swedish are very nice. Swedish is dominated by the M96, which is a fine rifle in the amazing and probably best long range 6.5 cartridge. Very lightweight rifle that is almost as modern as the M98.

    Check Mausers are also exquisite, coming from BRNO.

    In general, I would concentrate on discovering the historical model timeline of the Mauser company. People tend to always want to focus on the country they are associated with, but that's harder to understand. If you look at how the rifles were developed, things become most clear. Everything really happened between 1889-1898, and after that the rifles all just had various traits of the various 90's models.

    First you have the 1889, which is a rare Belgian made rifle. Then came the 1891, which is most associated with Argentina. The M93 and M95 are associated with Chile mostly and are very similar to the M96 (which is almost exclusively Swedish). Then comes the one everyone knows, and represents the final version made until well into the second half of the 20th century, the M98.

    My personal favorite is the M95, it's got the perfect blend of lightweight and design features. It represents Mauser's pinnacle achievement before politics got involved. The finest company to make Mausers ever to me was Lowe of Berlin, and you can find a Chilean 1895 in fantastic shape for around $750. A regular one is less than $500.
    Originally posted by doggie
    Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
    Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
    Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
    "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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    • #32
      TMB 1
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2012
      • 7153

      Originally posted by peppermintman
      Yes he should have but he didn't. Did he mention the 03A3?
      I don't remember and don't have time to watch again, but I don't think he did or he would probably not have given the edge to the K98.
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      • #33
        gryffinwings
        Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 377

        Originally posted by Discogodfather
        I'm a South American Mauser collector, and it's the focus of my collection. The name is misleading because people think they were made in South America. Almost all were made in Germany and Belgium, and then sent to their respective countries. They are exquisite, going back to the beginning of Mauser as a company, and they are offered at a fraction of the price of so called "European" rifles. They are in some cases much finer than the best European guns, and on average are in much better condition.

        For instance, you can pick up a Brazilian 1908 in decent shape for $350 or so. For $1000 you can have your pick of FN made Venezuelan, etc. They all shoot the marvelous 7mm cartridge, one of the original Paul Mauser designed cartridges and the one he favored. It's a much better cartridge than the 8mm in my opinion.

        Other than that, Swedish are very nice. Swedish is dominated by the M96, which is a fine rifle in the amazing and probably best long range 6.5 cartridge. Very lightweight rifle that is almost as modern as the M98.

        Check Mausers are also exquisite, coming from BRNO.

        In general, I would concentrate on discovering the historical model timeline of the Mauser company. People tend to always want to focus on the country they are associated with, but that's harder to understand. If you look at how the rifles were developed, things become most clear. Everything really happened between 1889-1898, and after that the rifles all just had various traits of the various 90's models.

        First you have the 1889, which is a rare Belgian made rifle. Then came the 1891, which is most associated with Argentina. The M93 and M95 are associated with Chile mostly and are very similar to the M96 (which is almost exclusively Swedish). Then comes the one everyone knows, and represents the final version made until well into the second half of the 20th century, the M98.

        My personal favorite is the M95, it's got the perfect blend of lightweight and design features. It represents Mauser's pinnacle achievement before politics got involved. The finest company to make Mausers ever to me was Lowe of Berlin, and you can find a Chilean 1895 in fantastic shape for around $750. A regular one is less than $500.
        Thank you for the information, it's expanding my view on what to collect, I had no idea how the South American countries got mausers, it seems many obtained these excellent rifles. I'm definitely intrigued.

        What's the availability of 7mm mauser? Hand loading supplies? I figure it wouldn't be as available as 8mm mauser.

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        • #34
          capt14k
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2015
          • 1301

          Originally posted by gryffinwings
          Thank you for the information, it's expanding my view on what to collect, I had no idea how the South American countries got mausers, it seems many obtained these excellent rifles. I'm definitely intrigued.

          What's the availability of 7mm mauser? Hand loading supplies? I figure it wouldn't be as available as 8mm mauser.
          7mm FMJ is not easy to find. Reloading supplies are readily available. The 1895 Chilean Long can now be found for $250-500.

          Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

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          • #35
            Discogodfather
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2010
            • 5516

            I just sold this M95 Chilean on GB, it was in amazing shape. Buyer was very pleased:




            Originally posted by doggie
            Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
            Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
            Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
            "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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            • #36
              gryffinwings
              Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 377

              Originally posted by Discogodfather
              I just sold this M95 Chilean on GB, it was in amazing shape. Buyer was very pleased:




              Wow, that's a really nice looking rifle!

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              • #37
                capt14k
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 1301

                Originally posted by Discogodfather
                I just sold this M95 Chilean on GB, it was in amazing shape. Buyer was very pleased:




                Your rifles fall into the Sandy Koufax Rookie Cards Graded 9+ category. While baseball cards in general are in the crapper; the rare and the best will always command a premium and have buyers for it. Another beautiful rifle.

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                Last edited by capt14k; 10-22-2017, 2:00 PM.

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                • #38
                  Bobby Ricigliano
                  Mit Gott und Mauser
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 17439

                  Originally posted by lightcav
                  Im just sticking with the 1903s because I have M1 Garands and dont want to stock another cartridge.
                  Sound logic. I take the same approach with avoiding any Mausers that are not in 8mm. Those South American Mausers are beautiful, but I don't need any more calibers to spend ammo money on.

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                  • #39
                    peppermintman
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 1943

                    Originally posted by gryffinwings
                    Thank you for the information, it's expanding my view on what to collect, I had no idea how the South American countries got mausers, it seems many obtained these excellent rifles. I'm definitely intrigued.

                    What's the availability of 7mm mauser? Hand loading supplies? I figure it wouldn't be as available as 8mm mauser.

                    You knew the Germans & French occupied Mexico for example.

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                    • #40
                      Bobby Ricigliano
                      Mit Gott und Mauser
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 17439

                      Originally posted by peppermintman
                      You knew the Germans & French occupied Mexico for example.
                      Poor Maximilian....

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                      • #41
                        gryffinwings
                        Member
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 377

                        Originally posted by peppermintman
                        You knew the Germans & French occupied Mexico for example.
                        I honestly had no idea this was the case, I'll have to look into this. Thank you for the miniature history lesson!

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                        • #42
                          oc16
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 1055

                          Originally posted by peppermintman
                          You knew the Germans & French occupied Mexico for example.
                          really? that would explain all of those broken down german panzers by the boarder
                          retreat! we must go comrade we will fight again another day.

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                          • #43
                            gryffinwings
                            Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 377

                            Originally posted by oc16
                            really? that would explain all of those broken down german panzers by the boarder
                            Mexican government should feel so lucky to have broken down panzers at the boarder .

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                            • #44
                              peppermintman
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1943

                              Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                              Poor Maximilian....
                              On the serious side Bobby...you never heard Um Pa Pa music while driving around town?

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                              • #45
                                gryffinwings
                                Member
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 377

                                Anybody seeing the current availability of Mausers, I don't seem to see much if anything in the San Diego for Mausers.

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