Mosins differences...?

[dieselpower]

I sporterized my M38 with a custom paint job and got my *** kicked on 7.62x54.net for it. Seems I have (or had in their eyes) a very rare one. East German M38 post war issue.

[Alex$]

I sporterized my M38 with a custom paint job and got my *** kicked on 7.62x54.net for it. Seems I have (or had in their eyes) a very rare one. East German M38 post war issue.

That crew over there is a very closed group of known friends and serious collectors. As long as you keep it to very specific questions and don't offer too strong an opinion that differs from theirs you will be fine. Ted (aka 7.62x54r) has a very informative and authoritative site, if just a bit hard to navigate.

Sporterization and modification of Mosin Nagants type discussion is strictly forbidden, if you discuss it there you can expect to be spanked by one of the moderators. Respect their rules and they are very willing to answer questions.

Do you regret painting the rare m38 as much as they do?

[dieselpower]

That crew over there is a very closed group of known friends and serious collectors. As long as you keep it to very specific questions and don't offer too strong an opinion that differs from theirs you will be fine. Ted (aka 7.62x54r) has a very informative and authoritative site, if just a bit hard to navigate.

Sporterization and modification of Mosin Nagants type discussion is strictly forbidden, if you discuss it there you can expect to be spanked by one of the moderators. Respect their rules and they are very willing to answer questions.

Do you regret painting the rare m38 as much as they do?

No. I wish it came out a little better, and when I have time I will strip it down and do it better. The metal came out deep rich green, while the stock is light tan. I do understand it's a rare firearm, but its a Mosin. In 100 years there will still be 1,000,000,000 floating around. The fact that mine has some "weird" points to it matter not, since there is no way to prove who did them. They said, the importer would not have modified the weapon, so the changes were done at the factory and by what was done it must have been Germany...but try to prove that and then ask for an extra $100 when selling it, thats not going to happen. Even they would not comment on what the weapon was worth if I never painted it, which tells me, its not a true collectors item where $$$ are concerned.

I have taken it out twice and both times people said it looks great and wanted to buy one since they saw mine.

[Seesm]

Your "M1938" is an m91/30 built in 1938, sounds like it has been sporterized.

To tell where it came from you have to look on the receiver for one of the two following stampings: Star with arrow in it, it came from Tula arsenal; wreath with sickle and hammer, it came from the Izhevsk arsenal.

All your answers can be had at http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinIDII.htm

Iron sights shooting should be fine out to about 300 - 400 yards, 500 for a man size target, IMHO no scope required. I can easily shoot water bottles at 200 with my m9130, using light ball milsurp.

Russians always had the bayonet attached or extended (depending on model) so they were sighted in that configuration. As already mentioned, the difference between shooting with it on versus off can be noticeable.


P.S. edit Does the receiver have 1938 stamped on it? That is what I assumed, if that is not the case, disregard my conclusion it was a m91/30.

Yeah for sure it has a sporter stock.. The date is 1941 on the rifle... The part # is m1938

It is more a carbine looking rifle that does not appear to have had a bayonette on it ever. (of its its a cut down barrel) It does have a std front site. I need to hunt down a rear site however...

The barrel says CAI on it and the date of 1941 and has a #1 in a triangle and serial # and a few other deals on it......

[Seesm]

Seesm,

Don't buy a Mosin until you've looked at the Finnish variants. IMO these epitomize the Mosin design and function.

Basically the Finns took the Mosin action and gave it a custom gunsmithing job, adding on a heavy barrel and very smooth two-stage trigger. I think if an M39 wouldn't shoot 1.5MOA with the ammo at the time it wouldn't go out of the factory.

I had an M39 that I later sold to fund other projects but it was a nice rifle. The fit, balance, and handling are superb and the beefy stock makes it feel like a solid rifle.

Of course, good M39s cost 250+ but you are getting the best Mosin out there.

Nah this one was just given to me free of charge from a buddy....

[Seesm]

From what I can figure on the site you all pointed me too I am the proud owner of a 1941 Round low wall receiver
made by Izhevsk.

Anyone have a wooden std stock they want to off cheap?

Btw how do you say it?

Is hev ski
Eyes hev ski

or what?

[metalhead357]

We need to see some pics of this beast or this thread is worthless

[Seesm]

Kinda embarrased since it does not have a wood stock... yet anyway.

[bplvr]

I sporterized my M38 with a custom paint job and got my *** kicked on 7.62x54.net for it. Seems I have (or had in their eyes) a very rare one. East German M38 post war issue.

Always check history prior to "customizing". A stock M38 all stamped matching is about $225.00 on the auctions . The East German M38 that was sold last year went for $425.00 . It is a numbers and quality issue.How many were made,how many were imported,was it messed with....etc. Look at what the Polish M44's are selling for, and it is just an old M44.

[Alex$]

From what I can figure on the site you all pointed me too I am the proud owner of a 1941 Round low wall receiver
made by Izhevsk.

Anyone have a wooden std stock they want to off cheap?

Btw how do you say it?

Is hev ski
Eyes hev ski

or what?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Izhevsk

click the red speaker icon

[Seesm]

Thanks Yeah it was trying to load some sh*t so I only heard it one time something weird was happening... Eeee zheveskkk

[Xerxes]

The Mosins are fun to collect right now.

Can get a great rifle for less than $150 out the door in great condtion.

And it had a lot of history like other rifles now costing in excess of $600 for US, British, German, Jap.

And ammo at 15 cents a round means a day at the range with 50 rounds only costs $7.50 instead of say $30 for 308 or such.

By the way the M1903 I am pretty sure refers to the Springfield US model, not a Mosin model, though not being an expert on the Mosin maybe there is such a beast.

[Seesm]

hey so anyone have any cheap ammo they wanna send my way "cheap"