M1 Feeding

[jeremyro]

You may be prematurely wearing your oprod this way. Just be careful.

What would be wearing prematurely in the op rod? the cam track and op rod tab? It is lubed, just not wet.

[milotrain]

Not all lube takes pressure equally well. That's precisely why people use wheel bearing grease because it's designed as a high pressure lubricant. The grease is literally the only thing between steel parts hammering themselves together.

[jeremyro]

Not all lube takes pressure equally well. That's precisely why people use wheel bearing grease because it's designed as a high pressure lubricant. The grease is literally the only thing between steel parts hammering themselves together.

Are you saying the grease acts as a buffer? The reason the army recommended grease was they thought it was less likely to wash away in use and weather. I know that the tab will wear if not lubed, but it runs smooth with the FL on it. I would think the steel parts hammer together either way. I am not trying to contradict, I am actually very curious about this.

[milotrain]

"Never under any circumstances use oil to lubricate any major part of the M1 Garand. Use grease -Heavy grease- in the four bolt points, op rod channel/receiver raceway, and op rod detent. I use a high-temperature, high-pressure wheel bearing grease…
Incorrect lubricants [including and especially oil] contribute to the premature death of operating rods, receivers, and sometimes, shooters."
-The Complete Garand by Jim Thompson


Yes that's what I'm saying, and that's what grease is for in nearly every mechanical application. The Army did not use grease because of oil washing away.

Think of ball bearings. Oiled they run fast and die early, greased they run slow and long. Similar metals do not rub together in a friendly way ever, lubricant is the only thing keeping them from galling almost instantly.

[jeremyro]

Huh, well I guess I will play this experiment out then. I do have a spare op rod so if it does fail I can replace it. I am about 1600 rounds down the pipe of a CMP service grade with no issues. I also had a special that I used the same procedure and never had a malfunction.

[ucladude101]

+1 for Mobil Synthetic grease. Works great and is readily available at any auto parts store. I use it on many of my guns, it makes the actions feel even smoother.

The rule of thumb for lubrication on an M1 is if you can see it, you used too much.

I would replace the op rod spring with a new one from Garand Gear or Orion 7. That and the proper lube should fix your problem.

Thanks for the help Brian will use Mobil 1 for the C&R shoot on the 13th


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[23's Dad]

The rule of thumb for lubrication on an M1 is if you can see it, you used too much.

By "see" I follow the rule that it should shine, but not accumulate to the point where I can distinguish a color (using Mobile 1 which is red). Most often I apply the grease so it has a shine with some tracking from my fingerprint.

[biggish_burrito]

Not to derail the thread, but would White Lithium Grease do anything detrimental to a Garand?

[TMB 1]

Not to derail the thread, but would White Lithium Grease do anything detrimental to a Garand?

No, not so far.

[diverwcw]

1. As mentioned earlier, make sure your gas plug is tight,

2. Make sure your gas piston/op rod is within specs. If the gas piston at the end of the rod is below specs, that allows the gas to go around it and it will not cycle the action.

[Orlando]

You guys are waaaaay over thinking this. ANY grease is more than adequate for our babied Garands. There is absolutly no reason to buy little expesive tubes of so called high tech gun grease
Also you never apply a heavy coat of grease on Garand prtas. Just a light thin coat is all that is needed

[rvr350]

You guys are waaaaay over thinking this. ANY grease is more than adequate for our babied Garands. There is absolutly no reason to buy little expesive tubes of so called high tech gun grease
Also you never apply a heavy coat of grease on Garand prtas. Just a light thin coat is all that is needed

+1. Orlando has a lot of experience. Doesn't take much grease to keep the Garand running smooth. For the op, change the op rod spring, check all the gas system parts for out of spec, that should eliminate most feeding problems. What kind of ammo are you shooting? And exactly what is the issue? Ftf, fail to eject?

[Enfield47]

By "see" I follow the rule that it should shine, but not accumulate to the point where I can distinguish a color (using Mobile 1 which is red). Most often I apply the grease so it has a shine with some tracking from my fingerprint.

Exactly, a little bit goes a long way.

[crazy]

Hello fellow C&R Calgunners I have an M1 Garand that always when I get out to the range does not cycle 100%, I know this is because it is "dry" and M1's like to run wet but I want something that will keep it running 100% of the time it seems like I am applying Rem Oil after every 8 shots is there any better lubricants for the M1? I am doing something wrong? should I apply Grease if so where?


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[Zak12]

Hey guys, im new to calguns. I just moved back from Alaska where I was stationed for 6 years on Fort Richardson. I joined the army as airborne because i watched so many world war 2 movies as a kid that all ever thought about was the sound of that damn pingggg. I, like a dummy, missed out on my opportunity to buy a M1 Garand at a price I could afford and now like many regret not buying one. I almost entirely became a member just to stalk the pages for m1 garands for sale. Long story short, if anyone has a garand collecting dust and willing to sell it to a vet who will appreciate it and shoot the **** out of it please let me know. Ps im a big fan of the springfields. Thank you!