CMP entitlement

[ef9boy88]

Hard as I try, I cannot understand all the hate for so called Garand "flippers". If it gets another historical rifle in "appreciative" public hands, who cares how it got there.

By that logic the CMP should just raise the price to align with the market. I think there's even a CMP one on here going for like 1500 right now.

Also if that is the goal of the person selling it than 8 would still be plenty, and will help stretch the supply for people who aren't just out to make a quick buck.

[Denver Dick]

It should be 2 or 3 per year... Most just get up sold...

That's exactly the number I was thinking about. I mean even at three per year, in three years you could have a nice collection of nine rifles, or keep the three best and sell the rest. Unless, of course, you're looking to be a bottlenose dolphin . . .

[ke6guj]

It should be 2 or 3 per year... Most just get up sold...

true, but I'd rather CMP get them all sold off before someone gets a chance to pass a new bill sending them all to Capt'n Crunch.

hell, just this year, Sen. McCain got his amendment added to the Senate version of the 2017 NDAA that would grind up any M1 Carbines, 1903s, 1917s, or 1911s instead on sending them to CMP. luckily it still hasn't been reconsiled with the house version yet, but our Garands are always at risk of a law changed to get them ground up.

I'd rather CMP sell them all for a decent price today and flood the market and put the proceeds into the endowment instead of doling them out onsey-twosey to try to get max $$$ and risk losing the inventory to an anti-gun bill.

[sofbak]

true, but I'd rather CMP get them all sold off before someone gets a chance to pass a new bill sending them all to Capt'n Crunch.
hell, just this year, Sen. McCain got his amendment added to the Senate version of the 2017 NDAA that would grind up any M1 Carbines, 1903s, 1917s, or 1911s instead on sending them to CMP. luckily it still hasn't been reconsiled with the house version yet, but our Garands are always at risk of a law changed to get them ground up.

I'd rather CMP sell them all for a decent price today and flood the market and put the proceeds into the endowment instead of doling them out onsey-twosey to try to get max $$$ and risk losing the inventory to an anti-gun bill.

Precisely what I had in mind when I said:

"If it gets another historical rifle in "appreciative" public hands, who cares how it got there. "

[ef9boy88]

But again if that is your intention than why mark up the weapon to almost double what you paid?

[I Swan]

Don't worry the flippers will just have friends and family buy for them as well.

[sofbak]

But again if that is your intention than why mark up the weapon to almost double what you paid?

Well,,, without a lot of mental laboring, two good reasons come to mind;

1. If someone is willing to pay that much for one, I'll take it! I don't know anyone who has too much money-including me!

2. If I get double the CMP price, I can turn around and buy TWO from the CMP, thus getting two more M1's into the public domain, AND putting more $$$ into the CMP programs.

See the CMP's mission isn't to put some "precious, sacred" rifle into your hands forever more. Their mission is to encourage and advance CIVILIAN MARKSMANSHIP. And they do a lot more than just sell surplus rifles. So every rifle bought puts another out of politicians' harms way, and funds their youth marksmanship programs.......

[Denver Dick]

Okay, you guys have convinced me. Besides, I got nothing against dolphins, I was just looking for an opportunity to post the photo of the vintage lunch pail. Yeah, I'll go with unlimited. What the heck, I've got my SA and HR collector grade rifles and a beautiful late 5.9 million SA correct grade.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Hard as I try, I cannot understand all the hate for so called Garand "flippers". If it gets another historical rifle in "appreciative" public hands, who cares how it got there.

There is no hate. It is just rather odious that some people with deep pockets insert themselves into a middleman position where one is neither needed or wanted. The rifles are more likely to end up in "appreciative public hands" if they can be acquired at the low CMP price rather than through some opportunistic flipper who buys them with the specific intent of reselling them at a huge margin. It violates the intent of the FFL03 license to conduct business with it.

[Douglas Munro]

They have 800,000+ remaining... i think 8 each is OK.

[Father Ted]

Hard as I try, I cannot understand all the hate for so called Garand "flippers". If it gets another historical rifle in "appreciative" public hands, who cares how it got there.

It's the CMP, not Garand Depot. Part of their mission is to put these in the hands of civilian shooters. I think it should be less than 8. I remember seeing pictures of people making several trips to the store and stacking their pickup beds over the top with spam cans. Got spam?
Cheers

[I Swan]

They have 800,000+ remaining... i think 8 each is OK.

I thought CMP said they are running low?

[TRICKSTER]

There is no hate. It is just rather odious that some people with deep pockets insert themselves into a middleman position where one is neither needed or wanted. The rifles are more likely to end up in "appreciative public hands" if they can be acquired at the low CMP price rather than through some opportunistic flipper who buys them with the specific intent of reselling them at a huge margin. It violates the intent of the FFL03 license to conduct business with it.

Or what is even worse, buys them to part them out just to make money.

[TRICKSTER]

And never mind that when you sign the order form, you are certifying that "and that I am purchasing this rifle for my (or my junior shooter’s) personal use."

But then again, to some people, their word means nothing.

[ef9boy88]

There is no hate. It is just rather odious that some people with deep pockets insert themselves into a middleman position where one is neither needed or wanted. The rifles are more likely to end up in "appreciative public hands" if they can be acquired at the low CMP price rather than through some opportunistic flipper who buys them with the specific intent of reselling them at a huge margin. It violates the intent of the FFL03 license to conduct business with it.

I completely agree.