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  • #16
    Bobby Ricigliano
    Mit Gott und Mauser
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 17439

    The people responding to this thread are not used to all the blubber being tacked on to the actual price. Get your 03/COE and it will pay for itself within 1-2 buys.

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    • #17
      Enfield47
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2012
      • 6385

      Originally posted by Milsurp Collector
      The stock looks sanded.
      Just curious, what makes you think it's sanded. There look like quite a few dents and dings left in the stock. Maybe it's just the small screen I'm looking at that doesn't show the detail.

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      • #18
        No Step On Snek
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 40

        All the more reason to get the 03/COE
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        • #19
          emcon5
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3347

          Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
          The price isn't bad. It is the transfer fee, dros, and tax that kill the deal.
          Yeah, I don't think the price is all that bad, maybe a little high, but not horrible. It would be easier to be sure if the photos were better (decent light, in focus, little things like that). Probably $30 of the $425 price is shipping.

          The additional $111 is good old fashioned prison lovin'.

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          • #20
            No Step On Snek
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2016
            • 40

            Thank you again for the advice all. Since I'm passing on here is the ad in case anyone wants it.

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            • #21
              echo1
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 3884

              Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
              The price isn't bad. It is the transfer fee, dros, and tax that kill the deal.
              ^This. I've always done good on the street, but the DROSing of C&Rs kill a lot of deals any more. PAX
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              • #22
                81turbota
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Oct 2014
                • 2956

                Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                The people responding to this thread are not used to all the blubber being tacked on to the actual price. Get your 03/COE and it will pay for itself within 1-2 buys.
                This. You'll still have to pay the same transfer fees you do now if you have C&R pistols shipped in as they go to an 01FFL but long guns arrive on your doorstep. The only additional cost is $19 to the DOJ for the monthly (if you buy more in a 30 day period- $19 for one long gun or 5) registration form.
                C&R nut.

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                • #23
                  emcon5
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3347

                  Originally posted by 81turbota
                  This. You'll still have to pay the same transfer fees you do now if you have C&R pistols shipped in as they go to an 01FFL but long guns arrive on your doorstep.
                  Unless you live close enough to America to pick it up from an 01 FFL that understands the law.

                  Still need to pay the $19 when you bring it across the California Frontier.

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                  • #24
                    Milsurp Collector
                    Calguns Addict
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 5884

                    Originally posted by Enfield47
                    Just curious, what makes you think it's sanded. There look like quite a few dents and dings left in the stock. Maybe it's just the small screen I'm looking at that doesn't show the detail.
                    An unsanded stock should still have some sharp, defined edges that are right angles, not rounded. Type 99 stocks were finished with a unique, durable Japanese lacquer called urushi that has a reddish brown color, semigloss sheen, and often what looks like particulate matter in it that was part of the finishing process. An unsanded stock should still have visible inspector's stamps on the bottom.






                    Compare the color and appearance of the OP's stock (granted, the pictures aren't great).

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                    • #25
                      Springfield45
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2426

                      If you really, really want a good condition type 99 that is a good price. It is worth what you are willing to spend. Excellent to good condition Arisakas are hard to find.

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                      • #26
                        Vlad 11
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2961

                        Those familiar to Arisakas can tell at a glance the originality of the stock.

                        The urushiol laquer has a unique appearance, and each arsenal has subtle variations of hue.

                        For instance the Toyo Kogyo tends to be a redder tone than say a Nagoya which can be generally more orangey.

                        The scratches dings and bruises very commonly tend to turn black over time on Arisaka stocks. Lacking this is almost sure sign of refinish

                        From google img.. original toyo kogyo stock



                        It seems people can get too hung up on the flower fetish, an intact mum being the be all, end all to the deal.

                        I personally would much rather have an mum ground Arisaka with its original undiked-with matching components and stock. Than to have one with a nice pretty flower but being a slapped together fantasy piece.

                        Arisakas have a ton of subtle variations, and without a book or someone who knows what they are looking at its easy to get taken with a mismatch piece.

                        My advice if you are looking to get an good Arisaka is to do your research and find a legitimate original rifle.

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                        • #27
                          hollowpoint67
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1452

                          Originally posted by Vlad 11
                          Those familiar to Arisakas can tell at a glance the originality of the stock.

                          The urushiol laquer has a unique appearance, and each arsenal has subtle variations of hue.

                          For instance the Toyo Kogyo tends to be a redder tone than say a Nagoya which can be generally more orangey.

                          The scratches dings and bruises very commonly tend to turn black over time on Arisaka stocks. Lacking this is almost sure sign of refinish

                          From google img.. original toyo kogyo stock



                          It seems people can get too hung up on the flower fetish, an intact mum being the be all, end all to the deal.

                          I personally would much rather have an mum ground Arisaka with its original undiked-with matching components and stock. Than to have one with a nice pretty flower but being a slapped together fantasy piece.

                          Arisakas have a ton of subtle variations, and without a book or someone who knows what they are looking at its easy to get taken with a mismatch piece.

                          My advice if you are looking to get an good Arisaka is to do your research and find a legitimate original rifle.

                          I was also on the quest for a mum intact rifle. That being said I recently discovered a $475 Type 99 Sniper Variant with no mum that I jumped on so I broke my own rule, justified by having the chance to secure a scarce version of the T99. I'll post pictures once I get it.

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                          • #28
                            aghauler
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 4794

                            Originally posted by No Step On Snek
                            Found one out of state.

                            Mum intact, not last ditch, has AA sights. Overall decent condition.

                            $425 shipped, factor in DROs of $75 and $36 for sales tax. $536 OTD.

                            Am I overpaying? Or would you say this is acceptable per todays market considering the mum / AA sights.

                            Thank you all in advance.
                            Seems a little steep

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                            • #29
                              major burnout
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 3860

                              Cant say it has been sanded from the pics. The stock cross bolt recess doesnt look rounded. It wasnt refinished with shellac, might be dry. I like the dried grease and dust bunnys on the sight. Pics are pretty bad cant see much. If its correct 70% finish with a bright chrome bore you could make a slightly lower offer and not feel too bad.
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                              • #30
                                Milsurp Collector
                                Calguns Addict
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 5884

                                Originally posted by major burnout
                                Cant say it has been sanded from the pics. The stock cross bolt recess doesnt look rounded. It wasnt refinished with shellac, might be dry.
                                Look at the rest of the pictures. It has been sanded.

                                The Japanese didn't use shellac.
                                Revolvers are not pistols

                                pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                                Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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