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  • #16
    Capybara
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    • Feb 2012
    • 15270

    When I bought a P64, I had to tell the FFL to "Look at the ATF's 2010 addendum!" in order to get them to release the gun to me. A lot of dealers will just check the main list. Wish we had more addendum to look at, but under an Obama or Clinton administration, I would think that numerous e-mails are sent to the ATF, threatening them NOT to add any guns to the C&R list. That's why it's been more than five years since any have been.
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    • #17
      sl0re10
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2013
      • 7242

      Originally posted by Chaos47
      Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about all P-64 have year dates on them. And the Polish made the P-64 well into the 1970's clearly much shorter then 50 years ago. Hell it didn't even go into official service till 1965 (50 years ago) so the bulk of them out there are younger then 50 years old.

      But the point is mute the P-64 is clearly listed in the ATF C&R addendum. OP should find a new FFL.
      clearly you have no reading comprehension. I replied to another part of his post. Not about the p-64 specifically.

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      • #18
        Dynikus
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2015
        • 14

        I had a chance to drop by today, and he said it wouldn't be a problem as long as it's legal to sell here. And I can put it on the same dros as a Mauser I've been waiting to be available at his shop, so it worked out better than expected

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        • #19
          IeatPi
          Member
          • Mar 2014
          • 332

          I've been dry firing and the SA in this gun is surprising. DA is......well, surplus DA. But the SA is great. Can't wait to get to the range Friday.

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          • #20
            IeatPi
            Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 332

            Speaking of. One of my mags is electropenciled match, the other is not. Is there a resource that is available to try to find the owner of the unmatched mag? Just to put the SN up for someone with that SN to take possession of the mag?

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            • #21
              Dynikus
              Junior Member
              • Aug 2015
              • 14

              No idea about that. But as far as the da trigger, I've heard (obviously haven't tried it yet) that Wolff springs make a huge difference. They should bring it down to around 12-14 pounds from 24+. 18lb hammer spring and 22lb recoil spring seem to be a common combination. People have reported problems using a 17lb hammer spring

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              • #22
                bonusweb
                Banned
                • Aug 2007
                • 1189

                Originally posted by Dynikus
                No idea about that. But as far as the da trigger, I've heard (obviously haven't tried it yet) that Wolff springs make a huge difference. They should bring it down to around 12-14 pounds from 24+. 18lb hammer spring and 22lb recoil spring seem to be a common combination. People have reported problems using a 17lb hammer spring
                Heard wolff recoil spring comes with stronger firing pin spring, this helps make it safer from AD caused by drop.

                I like the way this guy replaces the firing pin spring.


                Wolff spring review.

                Last edited by bonusweb; 12-02-2015, 8:48 PM.

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                • #23
                  bonusweb
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1189

                  Just put in the springs, the 18# hammer spring, took a few attempts.

                  Safety dent took some pin nose pliers. But was not unpleasant as like trying to hold 18#s with your thumb. I used a cloth but still tricky to get the paper clip in the hole while holding.

                  Recoil spring was heavy but no big deal, i did not grind it flat I will see how it as after about 50 rounds. Slide is a bit heavy to rack, but expecting it to be better with use.

                  Like the new triggers pull so far.

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                  • #24
                    IeatPi
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                    • Mar 2014
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                    • #25
                      spb_la
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1419

                      ^^^ very pretty! Looks brand new!
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                      • #26
                        Capybara
                        CGSSA Coordinator
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 15270

                        Originally posted by IeatPi


                        Wow, envious. That is a beautiful copy. Mine looks like a junkyard dog in comparison.
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                        • #27
                          M1NM
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                          • Oct 2011
                          • 7966

                          Originally posted by Flyin Brian
                          IIRC, the 50 year thing was true up until Jan 2014 and went away with the "long gun reg" law. That's when everyone was saying we could finally have C&Rs that were not 50 years old... The only thing positive that came out of that
                          C&R is a fed definition not state.

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                          • #28
                            Flyin Brian
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                            • Oct 2009
                            • 3395

                            Originally posted by M1NM
                            C&R is a fed definition not state.
                            In addition to the Federal definition, California had another rule stating it must be 50 years to be C&R... even firearms that were on the C&R list did not qualify as C&R in Ca if they were not 50 years old. That went away in 2014.
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