p64 c&r eligible even though not 50 years old?

[Dynikus]

[nick]

As usual, the gun shop is full of gas. ALL C&R handguns are roster-exempt. As is the P64.

[Dynikus]

Alright awesome, thanks. That's what I thought, I had never heard of whatever he was referring to. I might go in tomorrow with a print out of the 2009-2010 update saying all p64s are good to go.

[Flyin Brian]

IIRC, the 50 year thing was true up until Jan 2014 and went away with the "long gun reg" law. That's when everyone was saying we could finally have C&Rs that were not 50 years old... The only thing positive that came out of that

[mj1]

OMG !

Another joke thread,

[IeatPi]

Just picked mine up with a '68 date.

[bonusweb]

Turner $199 special one, I saw was 1974.

[Capybara]

Wish there were more that were newer than 50 years old and on the C&R list but it seems that P64s, CZ82s and Albanian SKS are the most popular.

[nick]

IIRC, the 50 year thing was true up until Jan 2014 and went away with the "long gun reg" law. That's when everyone was saying we could finally have C&Rs that were not 50 years old... The only thing positive that came out of that

That was for long guns.

[sl0re10]

Hi, I just wanted to make sure that I could have a p64 shipped here from classic firearms. I placed the order because I'm not sure how long their black friday sale on it's going on, and I didn't want to miss out on it.

I talked to the ffl I'd be doing the transfer with, and he'd never heard of the gun, but said california has a special law that the specific gun being transferred has to have a way of proving it's atleast 50 years old (ie: a date stamped onto it, papers saying the manufacture date, etc) even if it's a c&r eligible gun. I'd never heard of that, and I can't find anything about it anywhere online either.

But the p64 is on the atf's C&R list saying all serial numbers are C&R, so I should be fine, right?

"Section II —Firearms classified as curios or relics, still subject to the provisions of 18 U.S.C. Chapter
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 Polish, Model P64 pistols, 9 x 18mm Makarov caliber, all serial numbers
..."

nope....

most don't have dates... but to keep out of trouble you should be able to make a very good case it is the 50 years old if that's your reason for claiming C&R.

My last one was based on wikipedia... the country that made it hasn't made the model in less than 50 years... re: but no date stamp on the pistol.

[IeatPi]

Polish P64 doesn't need a date. The part you quoted even has the ATF C&R designation. P64 is good to go.

[SkyHawk]

ATF can designate guns C&R even if they are not 50 years old. They can do it if the guns are unique or historical, or a federal museum curator has requested and received a C&R classification.

If this gun is on the ATF C&R list, and it appears that it is, then it is roster exempt. Have the FFL look up the list at ATF website and if they still wont process it, find a new FFL.

And you should have gotten the green light from the receiving FFL first. The money you saved will be wasted and then some if you have to ship this thing all around and pay handling fees at every stop until you find a FFL that knows their business.

[nick]

nope....

most don't have dates... but to keep out of trouble you should be able to make a very good case it is the 50 years old if that's your reason for claiming C&R.

My last one was based on wikipedia... the country that made it hasn't made the model in less than 50 years... re: but no date stamp on the pistol.

P64s have date of manufacture stamped on the slide. Mine are 1971 and 1976.

[Dynikus]

you should have gotten the green light from the receiving FFL first. The money you saved will be wasted and then some if you have to ship this thing all around and pay handling fees at every stop until you find a FFL that knows their business.

Yeah, I really should have first, but I've dealt with the place a few times before, and they've always been pretty good. And like I said, I didn't want to miss out on the deal. He had never heard of the gun, so I could understand him not knowing it's on the c&r list and saying it has to be 50+ years old. I didn't get a chance to swing by today, but I'll try to tomorrow.

[Chaos47]

nope....

most don't have dates... but to keep out of trouble you should be able to make a very good case it is the 50 years old if that's your reason for claiming C&R.

My last one was based on wikipedia... the country that made it hasn't made the model in less than 50 years... re: but no date stamp on the pistol.

Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about all P-64 have year dates on them. And the Polish made the P-64 well into the 1970's clearly much shorter then 50 years ago. Hell it didn't even go into official service till 1965 (50 years ago) so the bulk of them out there are younger then 50 years old.

But the point is mute the P-64 is clearly listed in the ATF C&R addendum. OP should find a new FFL.