Mas 49/ 56 question.

[Lebaneseblonde]

Does this rifle require a bullet button or because it's curio and relic its exempt?

Bb is needed. What's the details on the neuter Job.

[watt79]

Wouldn't the MAS 49 be considered a featureless rifle?

[TRICKSTER]

The only thing it needs to be CA legal is for the grenade launcher to be removed or neutered.

[empirearms]

The 49-56 is a dangerous device due to the built-in grenade launcher, and is prohibited in California. If the grenade-launcher is removed, it no longer qualifies as a Curio & Relic firearm.

[Lebaneseblonde]

The 49-56 is a dangerous device due to the built-in grenade launcher, and is prohibited in California. If the grenade-launcher is removed, it no longer qualifies as a Curio & Relic firearm.

That sounds like catch 22 on a head scratching scale.

[Grendl]

The 49-56 is a dangerous device due to the built-in grenade launcher, and is prohibited in California. If the grenade-launcher is removed, it no longer qualifies as a Curio & Relic firearm.

Interesting take Dennis. Is that based on a DOJ opinion letter or speculation? Weren't Yugo SKSs openly sold as C&Rs once they had theirs removed?

[Grendl]

How would this be different than a M1917 that had it's rear sight wings ground off or a M1 carbine with it's front sight ears ground off? They clearly retain their C&R status despite more dramatic alterations.

The only issue is finding a seller willing to take the GL off before shipping it here.

[Wes C Addle]

in 7,5 or 308?

[Grendl]

Arisakas rechambered in .30-06 are still C&Rs so that shouldn't matter.

[The Gleam]

The 49-56 is a dangerous device due to the built-in grenade launcher, and is prohibited in California. If the grenade-launcher is removed, it no longer qualifies as a Curio & Relic firearm.

While true the Grenade Launcher device is prohibited as a destructive device, you are wrong concerning it's removal removes the gun from C&R consideration. As an FFL you should know better.

Mere removal of existing superfluous parts does not remove the firearm from C&R consideration, otherise a large portion of C&R guns that have seen better days could not be sold as C&R. Removal of the GL and its related parts does not modify the firearm nor "modernize" it. By your claim, a C&R rifle with sights or a forearm missing could not be sold as C&R.

I've bought and currenly own 3 Mas 49/56s chamberd in their original French 7.5 at different times over the past 2 decades - without the grenade launcher locking ring, its GL ramp-sight, and a adorned with a modifed muzzle brake.

[dfletcher]

Does this rifle require a bullet button or because it's curio and relic its exempt?

Bb is needed. What's the details on the neuter Job.

A BB on a MAS 49/56 would be an effort since the mag release is on the mag body itself, not on the gun. I suppose someone could contrive something.

GL aside, my take (FWIW) is that the "muzzle device" on the MAS 49/56 is a flash hider and that triggers AW status when matched with a detach magazine.

At the risk of getting MAS 49/56 purists mad as heck, my approach was to remove the standard issue device, recut the 16mm threads to 5/8X24 and install an Armalite two chamber brake. Doing this eliminated both the device issue and the GL issue because whatevertheheck those grenades are they won't slip over the Armalite brake. The Armalite brake looks right too. Same finish, not too big and a basic brake with two large ports.

Barrel diameter at the threads is just right for recutting by hand, recutting eliminated the existing threads entirely. I used a plain old hand die and handle from Brownells. The TAT was a challenge because the MAS 49/56 barrel diameter isn't quite .308. Spinning the TAT against some "wet n' dry" paper dressed it down just enough to fit.

I don't believe switching the device for another changes C & R status, but even if it does - C & Rs aren't afforded an exemption from CA AW laws anyway.

[Grendl]

My solution was to weld a washer to the end of the FH. My buddy's was to turn down a cylinder, weld it inside, then re-machine the ports. Looks awesome.

[Lebaneseblonde]

I think I will pass on the rifle.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=487114802 For someone willing to do the nonsense work

[smle-man]

I removed the GL range ring, the GL sight and had the flash hider diameter increased by sleeving it on the outside.

You might create a 'bullet button' by tack welding the hinge point on a magazine that is inserted into the magazine well. You wouldn't be able to remove the magazine unless you cut the weld but the rifle itself would be spared.

[mj1]

Not a single person mentioned the amnisty registered guns. It was big long time period too. Not sure when it ended.