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  • nrakid88
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 3285

    Can I sell these FTF

    I have five rifles that I have collected over the past four years that I want to sell. I bought them all at Big5 and turners, but I think they might all be C&R. Mosin Nagant 91/30, Yugo M24/47 mauser, Enfield No. 4 Mk. I, and a Swiss K-31. I have done cosmetic work on all but the Yugo, refinishing wood and metal, so would that void the C&R status. And if they are C&R does that mean I can sell them to someone without a FFL doing the paperwork? Or do they still have to go through an FFL, I don't have a C&R license. Also I have a Yugo 59/66, but I don't know if that is C&R. Thanks for the help guys.
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    5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
    Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
    You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.
  • #2
    paul0660
    In Memoriam
    • Jul 2007
    • 15669

    The 59/66 is not C and R in California, and has to go through a FFL 01. The rest are, even if you have cleaned them up, and can be transferred to an individual who you are reasonably sure is allowed to own a firearm. The few times I have done this, I have asked for a DL copy, another form of proof of California Residency, and a simple statement that the person affirms that he or she is not prohibited from owning firearms. I would only do this face to face.
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    • #3
      CHS
      Moderator Emeritus
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2008
      • 11338

      If they are more than 50 years old, then you can sell them face to face without DROS.
      Please read the Calguns Wiki
      Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
      --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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      • #4
        professionalcoyotehunter
        Banned
        • Nov 2008
        • 12805

        If they are in your name which if you bought them from Big % then you want to do a Private Party Transfer to get it out of your name. I will take the 24/47 just let me know how much you want for it.

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        • #5
          CHS
          Moderator Emeritus
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2008
          • 11338

          Originally posted by professionalcoyotehunter
          If they are in your name which if you bought them from Big % then you want to do a Private Party Transfer to get it out of your name. I will take the 24/47 just let me know how much you want for it.
          That only applies to handguns, which are registered to you at the time of DROS. DOES NOT APPLY to long guns.
          Please read the Calguns Wiki
          Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
          --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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          • #6
            giarcpnw
            Member
            • Apr 2005
            • 209

            I'd be interested in your K31. I have a C&R license.

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            • #7
              nrakid88
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 3285

              Wow, I am getting a lot of feedback, I will have to put these into the for sale forum soon.
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              5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
              Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
              You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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              • #8
                Full Clip
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Dec 2006
                • 10260

                Originally posted by nrakid88
                I have done cosmetic work on all but the Yugo, refinishing wood and metal, so would that void the C&R status.
                Not true.
                But may affect the "collector" value of the rifles.

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                • #9
                  mj1
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 3318

                  I want to see a picture of the Enfield.Then i will tell if it's Ok to sell it only to me. LOL

                  Picture please.



                  ..MJ..
                  Last edited by mj1; 11-13-2008, 8:16 PM.
                  WTS As new M47 Madsen 3006 w/bayonet.
                  WTS NIB Mosin 91/59
                  I will deliver or ship, details to be arranged with buyer.
                  The Spartans do not ask how many the enemies are but where they are.

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                  • #10
                    NotSoFast
                    Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 380

                    Originally posted by bdsmchs
                    If they are more than 50 years old, then you can sell them face to face without DROS.
                    The buyer or the gun?

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                    • #11
                      nrakid88
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3285

                      Damn guys, I'm sorry but I think I am going to hang on to these for a bit longer... I was going to sell them to free up some funds for an ar-10 in 6.5 creedmore, but the only barrel length i could find is too long for my tastes... So I don't really need the money anymore, the SKS is up for sale now though.
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                      5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
                      Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
                      You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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                      • #12
                        nrakid88
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3285

                        If you still wanna see some pics I can post 'em just for your entertainment
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                        5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
                        Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
                        You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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                        • #13
                          giarcpnw
                          Member
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 209

                          Don't sell the SKS!

                          That's the funnest and still near cheapest shooter you got. Plus it's semi.

                          The Mauser, k31 and Enfield are gonna blow your shoulder out after 20 rounds a piece anyway. You can shoot an SKS all day long and it will eat any ammo you throw at it. No worries about corrosive ammo either.

                          Keep em all if you must but def don't sell the SKS.

                          C

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                          • #14
                            SilentScream
                            Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 179

                            Sorry to highjack the thread, but I could not find a Yugo M24/47 on the C&R list,



                            maybe I looking at an old list, could someone help me out.

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                            • #15
                              ke6guj
                              Moderator
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 23725

                              Originally posted by SilentScream
                              Sorry to highjack the thread, but I could not find a Yugo M24/47 on the C&R list,



                              maybe I looking at an old list, could someone help me out.
                              Make sure you look at all the updates. http://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/ .

                              But in this case, the M24/47 does not appear to be specifically C&R listed, but it doesn't have to if it is 50+ years old. ATF does not automatically list all firearms that have become 50+ years old. They are automatically C&R and do not need to be listed.
                              Jack



                              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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