Featureless Rifles Picture Thread

[sandwich]

Ares SCR. Manufactures like this and Thorlo just got a good bump in sales! Word is, get the Monte Carlo stock if you're fixin' to use a scope. Pretty hard to argue that this isn't featureless, provided you don't have any verboten items on your upper.

Thanks for the quick response!

I googled for Ares SCR and they only sell rifle or complete lower? I'm not able to find just the stock? When I google for Monte Carlo Fixed Stock ar-15, I'm not able to find anything like it. [I just want to replace my pistol grip+collapsible stock with a normal looking rifle stock....]

Thank again!

[ritter]

Thanks for the quick response!

I googled for Ares SCR and they only sell rifle or complete lower? I'm not able to find just the stock? When I google for Monte Carlo Fixed Stock ar-15, I'm not able to find anything like it. [I just want to replace my pistol grip+collapsible stock with a normal looking rifle stock....]

Thank again!

You have to commit to the entire lower system. The bolt carrier functions similar to a 1100 shotgun and the recoil system is different from your typical AR gas tube. You are free to put whatever upper you'd like on it though. (provided no evil features). There is a SCR build thread currently in the semi category for more info.

[Nguyen]

this thread is going to be real popular in the next following months

[Sikvenum93]

Thanks for the quick response!

I googled for Ares SCR and they only sell rifle or complete lower? I'm not able to find just the stock? When I google for Monte Carlo Fixed Stock ar-15, I'm not able to find anything like it. [I just want to replace my pistol grip+collapsible stock with a normal looking rifle stock....]

Thank again!

Honestly it's not worth the money for the scr. It is not very reliable. If you want to have a comfortable featureless AR, you should look into the thordsen customs stock. I have a pic of one above in this thread and it only costs about $150 for the whole kit as opposed to $400-500 for the scr lower.

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[Choptop]

what grip is this?

[lowracer]

what grip is this?

http://www.exilemachine.net/shop/backfin-featureless-backstrap-for-miad-right-hand-101244.html

[Choptop]

http://www.exilemachine.net/shop/bac...nd-101244.html

danke mucho.

[shenanigoat]

Nice looking rifle...what sights are those? CZ? I've heard standard AR BUIs don't work well because of the cheek weld.

[hadjin]

Excellent featureless builds and ideas.. Thanks all.

[Yober]

Looking at these pics, I thought the new laws also stipulated a full or lower "shroud" as an evil feature? These builds seem to have them.

[ke6guj]

Looking at these pics, I thought the new laws also stipulated a full or lower "shroud" as an evil feature? These builds seem to have them.

nope, re-read the signed bills.

[s30]

Honestly it's not worth the money for the scr. It is not very reliable.

Cite?

I haven't one review that mentioned reliably issues. The rat tail on the BCG is extremely similar to the FAL BCG system.

Nice looking rifle...what sights are those? CZ? I've heard standard AR BUIs don't work well because of the cheek weld.

Yeah, standard AR BUIS wont work.

These are Cz Evo 2's and I find them extremely nice for factory sights. The CZ EVO 1's are shaped differently and are cheaper in price and quality.

[Sikvenum93]

Cite?

I haven't one review that mentioned reliably issues. The rat tail on the BCG is extremely similar to the FAL BCG system.





Yeah, standard AR BUIS wont work.

These are Cz Evo 2's and I find them extremely nice for factory sights. The CZ EVO 1's are shaped differently and are cheaper in price and quality.

I have a shooting buddy that owns the SCR and it would not function with steel case or Freedom munitions brass reloads. We had to use new PMC brass which is a deal breaking in my book. Secondly, take down sucks. It's a pita to line up the rat tail into the tiny buffer hole. Thirdly, there is no bolt hold open. Fourth, the trigger is terrible, his pulled at 8 pounds and it is proprietary. The magazine release also can't be reached by your shooting finger which makes mag changes harder. The safety is the crossbolt style which makes it difficult if you are a lefty. The stock feels flimsy and you need to do a bit of filing for other stocks to fit. Lastly the pencil barrel heats up very quickly but if someone wants just the lower that's not an issue. Overall it is not worth it especially when my thordsen stock AR-15 has none of the above issues and the featureless mod cost only $100.

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[s30]

I have a shooting buddy that owns the SCR and it would not function with steel case or Freedom munitions brass reloads. We had to use new PMC brass which is a deal breaking in my book. Secondly, take down sucks. It's a pita to line up the rat tail into the tiny buffer hole. Thirdly, there is no bolt hold open. Fourth, the trigger is terrible, his pulled at 8 pounds and it is proprietary. The magazine release also can't be reached by your shooting finger which makes mag changes harder. The safety is the crossbolt style which makes it difficult if you are a lefty. The stock feels flimsy and you need to do a bit of filing for other stocks to fit. Lastly the pencil barrel heats up very quickly but if someone wants just the lower that's not an issue. Overall it is not worth it especially when my thordsen stock AR-15 has none of the above issues and the featureless mod cost only $100.

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• Freedom reloads are generally considered bargain barrel brass ammo and alot of people have issues with them. To run steel case ammo, you need to upgrade the extractor springs. This isnt an SCR issue, this is an AR platform issue.
  
• Take down is exactly like an AR, but assembly requires the front take down pin to be removed. Line up the rat tail with the buffer tube, slide the upper back and down. It's simple after some time is spent orienting yourself with the rifle and how it operates. The weapons manual covers this.
  
• A bolt hold open is available and can be purchased separately. It should be included, but it isnt and to say that there isnt one is dishonest.
  
• ARES heard the complaints about the original trigger and it was updated. Its smoother and the pull is now at 5lbs. Your friend can send his rifle in to ARES and they will replace it free of charge. All current rifles come with the new trigger and if the 5lbs isnt light enough you can install a JP yellow hammer spring.
  
• The magazine release is what it is, if that's a shock to you after buying it you didnt look at the gun hard enough. Adding an ambidextrous mag release improves those super high speed operator mag reloads at the range, if needed.
  
• The crossbolt safety can be swapped out to a traditional safety, its funky though. But again, this shouldn't come to the buyer as a surprise. Especially if they are a lefty.
  
• If a owner feels that the stock is flimsy, they can be swapped out with any Remington 1100 12g shot gun stock. I personally, at 6'2" 270lbs feels that the stock is fine.
  
• If someone who is looking at this rifle doesn't want a pencil profile barrel or a carbine length gas system, they can just buy the lower.

Everything you've listed as a problem with the SCR is opinion formed without having researched or studied the rifle being discussed and the weapon failing to run subpar ammo that would effect any lower end BCG. There is a 30 plus page thread on ARFcom on the SCR along with countless other and no one is having reliability issues with ammo, so I'm a bit skeptical.

Also I personally think the Thordsen stock would make Stevie Wonder look away in disgust. You keep talking about how cost effective it is, what about a Monster Man Grip? Its even cheaper and you wouldnt have to wash your eyes out with bleach after looking at it.

[Sikvenum93]

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Also I personally think the Thordsen stock would make Stevie Wonder look away in disgust. You keep talking about how cost effective it is, what about a Monster Man Grip? Its even cheaper and you wouldnt have to wash your eyes out with bleach after looking at it.

This is literal opinion. Everything I've said about the SCR is fact. At the time I fired the SCR(over a year ago), it literally did not have a good trigger, or a LBHO(still doesn't come with one), or an ergonomically placed mag release(still is too far even with an extended mag catch). So the SCR got updated. The gun is $800+ and doesn't come with some very basic features my $500 AR comes with. My S&W M&P15 also runs steel and freedom munitions reloads all day without any kind of jam or modifications. The SCR is not a match grade/premium weapon. People should not have to spend more money on rather expensive ammo for it to work.

Most people don't like the monsterman or grip wraps because you can't wrap your thumb around the grip. The Thordsen, U-15 and Hammerhead grips are the only featureless grips that allow a normal handgrip. Of these 3 the thordsen feels and looks the most natural. For less than 1/4th the cost of an SCR yet retaining better ergonomics and all the normal features of an AR, there is no reason to buy an Ares SCR.

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