80% Paperwork

[MrPlink]

Valid question, as they have the option of omitting the BB on a featureless build, no?

The inference is some people think that home built firearms are exempt from certain lawa

[Kmai24]

i carry a copy of the gun control act of 1968.
most LE know about it. id say 60% of our sales are to LEOs!

+1 ^^. I also have a zero sled in my rifle bag just to say that it started as a single shot before it got converted. May not be neccessary but just in case.

[mrshark]

i had a guy argue with me demanding that California required i serialize my 80% builds and register them.

[xxINKxx]

i had a guy argue with me demanding that California required i serialize my 80% builds and register them.

And you coulda showed him the bill that DeLeon tried to get passed for serialaztion/registration but got tossed by Jerry Brown.

Even made public statements that it won't help gun crime.

[Donk310]

i had a guy argue with me demanding that California required i serialize my 80% builds and register them.

I can't believe you entertained him. I would have just said "Okay, I'll do it tomorrow".

[pronstar]

The inference is some people think that home built firearms are exempt from certain lawa

Yikes!
I guess that's not surprising in this day and age...

[80% Arms]

Valid question, as they have the option of omitting the BB on a featureless build, no?

Yes, it would be a valid question for a featureless build, but I meant it in the context that CA gun laws are complex, and many people are not aware of even some of the most basic ones. CA makes it easy for the otherwise law abiding citizen to get into trouble.

[sk8804]

80% Paperwork

Sorry to bring back a thread but does anyone have a link to an atf page that specifically says home builds do not require serial? I can't find it for my life. Everything I see says licensed manufacturers have to but cannot find where it says we don't. Also, I assume that depth of engraving only applies to a serial correct? Or does personal logos and fire control lettering have to meet that depth also? Thank you


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[NorCalXJ]

Sorry to bring back a thread but does anyone have a link to an atf page that specifically says home builds do not require serial? I can't find it for my life. Everything I see says licensed manufacturers have to but cannot find where it says we don't. Also, I assume that depth of engraving only applies to a serial correct? Or does personal logos and fire control lettering have to meet that depth also? Thank you


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http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=86627

[strongpoint]

Sorry to bring back a thread but does anyone have a link to an atf page that specifically says home builds do not require serial? I can't find it for my life. Everything I see says licensed manufacturers have to but cannot find where it says we don't.

The CGF wiki's FAQ section covers manufacture here.

But to address the more general question, you're looking at the issue backwards. We don't need to serialize most homebuilds prior to sale because no law states that we must (see this PDF, which Gene Hoffman posted in the thread NorCalXJ linked, specifically the fourth-to-last paragraph). The legal requirement that licensed manufacturers do so is specific to them.

[sk8804]

Wow I just flipped through that sticky also. And missed the PDF. I guess I am pretty backwards since I haven't seen anything saying we must. I didn't even think of it that way. Thank you guys for the links and thoughts.


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[drifts1]

Laws tell us what is illegal, not what is legal. So if there is no law making something illegal, then it's legal by default.

[Bansh88]

Local ranges no, but I would be very hesitant to take out my 80's on BLMs. There just might be that one ranger that will harass and I honestly don't want deal with all that trouble.

If they're already looking at your stuff, you're being harassed

[Click Boom]

Paperwork and 80s, Like tits on a bull.

[Cadre]

Carry bubblegum it works better