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  • MKUltra
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 1155

    80% Paperwork

    SOLD
    Last edited by MKUltra; 07-27-2020, 10:15 AM.
  • #2
    MauserMike
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 684

    No. i have never had any problems with having 80% builds i carry nothing extra. dont be scared. your not doing anything illegal. heck my 80%'s arent even coated they are just raw aluminum. I usually have to tell people its an 80% build.

    youll be okay!
    Slapping an upper onto a lower is not "building" an AR-15.

    What part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" do you illiterate pawns not understand!?

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    • #3
      Eljay
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4985

      This comes up all the time. Some people like to keep a copy of the "assault weapon" flowchart to show that their bullet button or rimfire or whatever is sufficient. But in terms of the 80% lower there's nothing about it that screams "Look at me! I'm homemade!" unless you leave it totally sterile. If you want to take an extra step - have somebody engrave some kind of clip art logo and something that resembles a serial # it'll look nice and conveniently like every other AR around and will give a LEO something to type into a database if they ever get the urge.

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      • #4
        Dumas1012
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Nov 2012
        • 1857

        Local ranges no, but I would be very hesitant to take out my 80's on BLMs. There just might be that one ranger that will harass and I honestly don't want deal with all that trouble.

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        • #5
          klewan
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 3031

          Buy a set of letter/number stamping dies and put the verbiage the cops want to see. You don't have to register or anything, just have something the bulls like...

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          • #6
            aresarmorrusty
            Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 176

            i carry a copy of the gun control act of 1968.
            most LE know about it. id say 60% of our sales are to LEOs!

            www.AresArmor.com

            Home of the 80% lower and the highest possible quality of tactical gear and metal goods. Based right out of Oceanside, CA.

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            • #7
              gun toting monkeyboy
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2008
              • 6820

              Are you guys serious? After this many years, you think that law enforcement doesn't know about 80% lowers? I really, really wouldn't stress about it. If you have followed the flow chart, there is no issue. And LEO that sees fit to confiscate your weapon will be giving you a public apology in no time flat once CGF talks to his supervisor. This really is a non-issue. And has been for some time. You don't need to mark your lowers. You don't need a serial number. All you need to do is comply with the AW laws, and you will be just fine.

              -Mb
              Originally posted by aplinker
              It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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              • #8
                MauserMike
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 684

                Originally posted by Dumas1012
                Local ranges no, but I would be very hesitant to take out my 80's on BLMs. There just might be that one ranger that will harass and I honestly don't want deal with all that trouble.
                BLM is my first choice in shooting range for my 80% raw alum lower as its my longrange 556. I am not worried the slightest bit of ranger rick coming out to see whats up because 1. everyone shoots out were i shoot and 2. i never see rangers out as far as i shoot.

                I have never had a problem with law enforcement, im an honest law abiding citizen that knows i am in the clear (at least for now laws always subject to change) so i will take my 100% legal firearms (where it is legal) without fear of harassment.

                Whatever makes you feel secure though.
                Slapping an upper onto a lower is not "building" an AR-15.

                What part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" do you illiterate pawns not understand!?

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                • #9
                  liber
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 1868

                  Originally posted by MauserMike
                  BLM is my first choice in shooting range for my 80% raw alum lower as its my longrange 556.
                  I agree, although I haven't ventured to shoot on BLM yet, and it seems Hollister, which is local for me, doesn't allow firearms. At least per their web page it says,

                  "There are no BLM Public Lands administered by the Hollister Field Office within 150 miles of San Francisco that are publicly accessible for target shooting.".

                  I personally am more concerned about the local ranges, that's where a clueless LEO would be more likely to show up, or when transporting firearms to or from a range.
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                  • #10
                    sharxbyte
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 2448

                    check my signature. Not required, but it could be helpful.
                    My AR is 7.62x39, so that if/when we get invaded, I can shoot their ammo back at them!
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                    Originally posted by Falstaff
                    Where is this ammo "Black market" he speaks of? Do they have .223 in stock?
                    My Home-Made Recurve Bow Thread


                    Own An 80%? CLICK HERE!


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                    • #11
                      MauserMike
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 684

                      Originally posted by liber
                      I agree, although I haven't ventured to shoot on BLM yet, and it seems Hollister, which is local for me, doesn't allow firearms. At least per their web page it says,

                      "There are no BLM Public Lands administered by the Hollister Field Office within 150 miles of San Francisco that are publicly accessible for target shooting.".

                      I personally am more concerned about the local ranges, that's where a clueless LEO would be more likely to show up, or when transporting firearms to or from a range.
                      indeed the routine traffic stop from a very rare dim witted uninformed mounty would be sketchy carrying a bunch of un-serialised firearms. but if they are legally being carried and locked up w/ammo out of the area how would he even know they are undocumented? he wouldnt have a reason to check your weapons in the first place... would he? hahaha freaking stupid laws
                      Slapping an upper onto a lower is not "building" an AR-15.

                      What part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" do you illiterate pawns not understand!?

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                      • #12
                        Eljay
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4985

                        Originally posted by gun toting monkeyboy
                        Are you guys serious? After this many years, you think that law enforcement doesn't know about 80% lowers? I really, really wouldn't stress about it. If you have followed the flow chart, there is no issue. And LEO that sees fit to confiscate your weapon will be giving you a public apology in no time flat once CGF talks to his supervisor. This really is a non-issue. And has been for some time. You don't need to mark your lowers. You don't need a serial number. All you need to do is comply with the AW laws, and you will be just fine.

                        -Mb
                        Well, yeah, actually. Specifically there have been some recent posts about BLM rangers checking configurations and running serials who get very befuddled when the weapon doesn't have one.

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                        • #13
                          MrPlink
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 12532

                          What paperwork?
                          A receipt of purchasing the 80?
                          A promissory note from your mom swearing it is legal?

                          No papers is the advantage of a homebuilt firearm.
                          The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

                          disclaimer:
                          everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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                          • #14
                            80% Arms
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 808

                            There has been tremendous growth in the popularity of 80% builds in California. We sell a large number of our 80% lowers to law enforcement officers. In the unlikely event of encountering an officer not aware of the legality of an 80% firearm, it's very doubtful that once he contacts his supervisor that there would still be any issue.

                            The bigger concern is that the build follows all other requirements such as installing a bullet button, no stock on pistol builds, 10 round magazine limit, etc. And yes, people still ask us if they need to use a bullet button on their AR builds...
                            80% Arms
                            12282 Monarch St.
                            Garden Grove, CA 92841

                            Phone: (949)-354-ARMS [2767]
                            Email: sales@80percentarms.com

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                            • #15
                              pronstar
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 198

                              Originally posted by 80% Arms
                              And yes, people still ask us if they need to use a bullet button on their AR builds...

                              Valid question, as they have the option of omitting the BB on a featureless build, no?

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