Re: Reliability comparison AK-47 vs Pump shotgun

[Click Boom]

And you've missed the point.

AKs are not in every crevice of the third world because of their reliability compared to anything else. AKs are available because they were cheap to manufacturer, and the soviets produced millions of them to distribute to any third world village leader who asked, for 50 years.

Had any other government done the same with a cheap to manufacture rifle(like the AR-18), you'd see something besides the AK being so common. If the soviets had handed out any other rifle in the sort of quantity that they did the AK, you'd be seeing whatever rifle that would have been instead.

This isn't about being an elitist, it's about understanding why AKs are all over the place instead of grinning like a fanboy just because some somali pirates in a picture happen to have them, as if they made some decision and chose whatever they thought to be superior. The reality is that they picked up what was available, and there are reasons beyond the AK's fabled reliability(whether or not anyone in this thread agrees with those claims) that explain why the AK was available. Understanding that does not make me an elitist, but I do smell a fanboy who can't seem to accept reality.

Ak popularity is related to their utility, not just price.

[Merc1138]

Ak popularity is related to their utility, not just price.

For these guys?


No, it's based on availability. Which is what I said, a few times now.

[nbirnbaum2]

I have a saiga 12 sgl12-09 converted by FIME group, sister company of ARSENAL. Nice gun. I added a CSS reliability kit. Saigas can still be finicky if you use cheap birdshot and not heaver loads. That being said its freaking sweet.