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  • ziconceo
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 3269

    Made a new ar 15 product a few nights ago.

    I'm not sure if this is a problem that is common. But it happened to me so I invented a solution for it. My 9mm ar 15 takes thick mags and my standard mag release would cause my mags to fallout during firing. So I invented an adjustable mag release. I don't want to go into details on how it works... But it works great, 500 rounds through it so far. You can adjust this for any thickness you want. Is there a general need for this or no?
    Last edited by ziconceo; 09-17-2014, 2:45 PM.
    I don't drink or Smoke. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline.
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    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 56963

    Originally posted by ziconceo
    I'm not sure if this is a problem that is common. But it happened to me so I invented a solution for it. My 9mm ar 15 takes thick mags and my standard mag release would cause my mags to fallout during firing. So I invented an adjustable mag release. I don't want to go into details on how it works... But it works great, 500 rounds through it so far. You can adjust this for any thickness you want. Is there a general need for this or no?
    Mag release tension is already adjustable based on how far you tighten the magazine release button.
    Sounds like you solved a non-issue.
    Randall Rausch

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    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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      bohoki
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 20773

      is your firearm featureless or are your magazines fixed with one of the devices that uses a tool

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        ziconceo
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 3269

        Originally posted by bohoki
        is your firearm featureless or are your magazines fixed with one of the devices that uses a tool
        Featureless. I could probably make one for bullet buttons but I haven't looked into it.
        I don't drink or Smoke. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline.

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        • #5
          ziconceo
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 3269

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          Mag release tension is already adjustable based on how far you tighten the magazine release button.
          Sounds like you solved a non-issue.
          Tension? I'm talking about depth. Like how far the mag catch sticks out.
          Last edited by ziconceo; 09-17-2014, 3:10 PM.
          I don't drink or Smoke. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline.

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          • #6
            dls
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 2598

            Originally posted by ziconceo
            Tension? I'm talking about depth. Like how far the mag catch sticks out.
            I thought that was adjusted by turning the mag release screw or magazine catch itself ?
            The chair is against the wall...

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              ziconceo
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 3269

              Originally posted by dls
              I thought that was adjusted by turning the mag release screw or magazine catch itself ?
              If that's true, (because I honestly don't know) then the only difference between mine and others would be that mine uses an Allen wrench to adjust it insured of a special tool. You can also swap the ends of it easily.
              I don't drink or Smoke. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline.

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                Merc1138
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2009
                • 19742

                Originally posted by dls
                I thought that was adjusted by turning the mag release screw or magazine catch itself ?
                No, the spring holds it against the receiver body. You can adjust the tension by turning the mag release.

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                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 56963

                  Originally posted by ziconceo
                  Tension? I'm talking about depth. Like how far the mag catch sticks out.
                  The depth is set by the receiver and then by the magazine body when the magazine is installed.
                  If you are needing to keep the latch from going so far into the receiver, that is a problem with the receiver being out-of-spec.

                  The main cause of mags not staying latched in ls the lack of tension on the mag catch.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                  Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                  • #10
                    ziconceo
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 3269

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    The depth is set by the receiver and then by the magazine body when the magazine is installed.
                    If you are needing to keep the latch from going so far into the receiver, that is a problem with the receiver being out-of-spec.

                    The main cause of mags not staying latched in ls the lack of tension on the mag catch.
                    but what about the catch not going far enough into the magwell?
                    I don't drink or Smoke. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline.

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                    • #11
                      Merc1138
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 19742

                      Originally posted by ziconceo
                      but what about the catch not going far enough into the magwell?
                      Then the receiver isn't machined to allow the mag catch to sit low enough.
                      Or the mag catch isn't machined to sit low enough in the receiver(possibly the part that catches the mag itself is too short).
                      Or the magazines aren't made properly to allow a standard mag catch, in a standard receiver, to hold the mag in place.

                      The problem with that last one, is that the length of the mag catch itself sits inside the mag well against the magazine, making it more likely that the receiver itself is out of spec. If you take your mag catch and button off, then look at how it interfaces when held loosely against a magazine in it's slot, you'll understand what's going on. The mag would have to be bent strangely, or made way too thin.
                      Last edited by Merc1138; 09-18-2014, 1:53 AM.

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                      • #12
                        steveOsteezy
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 569

                        I think this is similar to what you're talking about.
                        KCCO

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 56963

                          Originally posted by steveOsteezy
                          I think this is similar to what you're talking about.
                          http://bulletbutton.com/portfolio/ar...n-convertible/
                          LOL.
                          You are on the wrong side of the receiver...
                          We are talking about the magazine CATCH, not the magazine RELEASE.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            steveOsteezy
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 569

                            Originally posted by ar15barrels
                            LOL.
                            You are on the wrong side of the receiver...
                            We are talking about the magazine CATCH, not the magazine RELEASE.
                            Umm.. Maybe you should read OP's post

                            "My 9mm ar 15 takes thick mags and my standard mag release would cause my mags to fallout during firing. So I invented an adjustable mag release."

                            Anywho, in my experience with the convertible BB you can adjust the tension to the precise depth where the mag catch will clear the mag. Not sure if it's similar to OP's invention just wanted to throw it out there.
                            KCCO

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                            • #15
                              ziconceo
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 3269

                              Originally posted by steveOsteezy
                              I think this is similar to what you're talking about.
                              http://bulletbutton.com/portfolio/ar...n-convertible/
                              Yea, sorry. but that's quite different.

                              So here's why mine was necessary for me. It wasn't because of an out of spec receiver. I was using a dpms lower in a 5.56 platform and moved to 9mm. Obviously the mags and magwell become different due to dimensions and thickness requirements of the mags. I should've mentioned this earlier, sorry guys also, I should mention that my design would add no cost and would be just as cheap at regular mag releases.
                              I don't drink or Smoke. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline.

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