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  • #16
    alks207
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 1727

    Had a chance to take the Vepr out twice already and as promised here is my range report. First impression is - FIREBALL! Second impression - very manageable recoil. I shot her bench rest at 100 yards. I rested the rifle on the receiver and not the handguard. 10 round SGM mags and five round originals were used. I did have a problem with one of the original Molot magazines where the follower got jammed midways and would not feed the rounds - problem fixed with minor filing at home. Zero problems with the 10rd SGM mags. Not sure why they get such bad reputation. To measure the groups consistently and more realistically I used 5 shots for each group. Ammo used was: Russian 147gr, Hungarian YT Heavy ball (182gr I think), 7N1, MFS 174 gr. I did NOT let the barrel to cool down both times. Here are the results:

    Russian 147gr: 3-5 shot group average - 3.8 inches

    Hungarian YT: 6-5 shot group average - 3.63 inches

    7N1: 5-5 shot group - 3.64 inches

    MFS 174gr 3-5 shot group: 3.75 inches.

    I was really surprised with the Russian LB ammo as all the reviews say HB shoot better than LB ammo. The very first ammo I fired from the Vepr was the Russian LB and 5 shots grouped 1.5 inches. Most of the groups were fouled by one or two flyers using surplus ammo, otherwise results would have been much better. I still want to measure groups fired with commercial Heavy ball - Winchester, PPU, Hornady, S&B etc... I will post the results when I end up doing that. If you want an affordable rifle that shoots this caliber with better accuracy, then get a PU sniper rifle. Mine had an average consistent group of 2 inches using Russian 147gr and MOA-sub MOA with Winchester HB. It's funny that my 91/30 shoots so good because the barrel is actually really rusted and pitted. LOTS of fun at the rage, with relatively little recoil with the VEPR. Again, unless you are a combat fighter operator, who would need this for CQB purpose, this rifle is a range toy for me. If you do end up using this for combat purpose, it will consistently shoot fist sized groups (~3-4") at 100 yards, which means if you are aiming at center mass, it will shred to pieces the following: heart, subclavian arteries, L/R lungs, inferior/superior venae cavae, aorta <--- all lethal. If I want to hunt the small California mule deer with this cartridge, I will surely use my PU sniper. More results to come when I find commercial ammo. Overall impression: this is not a bench rest rifle. This is a practical and reliable rifle that will shoot consistent fist sized targets at 100 yards - better accuracy than your average AK.

    Attached are pictures of one of my PU sniper and thickness of the VEPR barrel.
    Last edited by alks207; 09-01-2014, 11:19 AM.

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    • #17
      Mot Mi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 1061

      Atlantic has it back the vepr svd style version 2. Wonder if I should sale my tactical model to buy the svd style

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      • #18
        JWHuey
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 2300

        Want one of these BAD!
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        • #19
          golfish
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2013
          • 10090

          OP, that's just so nice. Are you able to cycle surplus rounds through it without any problems? I guess the big question would be would you use the corrosive ammo?
          It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
          Happiness is a warm gun.

          MLC, First 3

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          • #20
            Discogodfather
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2010
            • 5516

            Molot rules!
            Originally posted by doggie
            Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
            Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
            Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
            "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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            • #21
              roger1022
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 2008

              Wonder how this compares to the SVT40 (aka unobtainium).
              You can give peace a chance...

              We'll cover you if it doesn't work out...

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              • #22
                alks207
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 1727

                Originally posted by roger1022
                Wonder how this compares to the SVT40 (aka unobtainium).
                I'm not sure. Unfortunatelly I don't own one but I would like to know myself.

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                • #23
                  Bobby Ricigliano
                  Mit Gott und Mauser
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 17439

                  Originally posted by golfish
                  OP, that's just so nice. Are you able to cycle surplus rounds through it without any problems? I guess the big question would be would you use the corrosive ammo?
                  Therein lies the million dollar question. I'd also love to know this.

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                  • #24
                    alks207
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1727

                    Originally posted by Mot Mi
                    Atlantic has it back the vepr svd style version 2. Wonder if I should sale my tactical model to buy the svd style
                    They do have the "SVD" style back, however it looks like they are using different stock this time. Before they were using Ironwood stocks ($400 per set), now they are using Rhineland stocks ($140 per set) with the same price tag. But you also have to realize that these "SVD" style Veprs are SVD by cosmetics and not by accuracy. I say keep your tactical model and use the money for better trigger group, scope mount/scope and/or ammo that your rifle likes.

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                    • #25
                      alks207
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1727

                      Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                      Therein lies the million dollar question. I'd also love to know this.
                      Zero problems with the Russian Surplus ammo. Approximately 100 rounds fires so far - flawless. I mean like BUTTER! For .22 cents per round groups MUCH better than I expected! Even thought the barrel and the gas chamber is chrome lined, don't forget to clean it after each use with corrosive ammo. I believe the gas tube, bolt and bolt carrier are not chrome lined.
                      Last edited by alks207; 06-28-2014, 11:28 PM.

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                      • #26
                        sl0re10
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 7242

                        Originally posted by alks207
                        Thanks. That's does look very sharp. That was actually my intention as well but I can't, with all my conscience, pay $400 for the stock. Btw, it looks like the front sight has the plunger system so you should be able to use the svd style flash hider
                        these guys make good stuff


                        $95 but you finish.

                        I used one, of the non vepr ones, on my saiga 12 and it looks great.

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                        • #27
                          penguinofsleep
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 2065

                          7.62x54 vepr escaped me last year. maybe someday in the more distant future. hopefully they will still be imported by then.

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                          • #28
                            Atlantic Firearms
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1942

                            The stock set we are using is a custom made stock with Walnut not maple and the stock set is professionally finished , We had to have a custom screw made to fit the stock sets to the gun that alone was $20 bucks per set. The Rhineland stock sets are maple with bare wood and not the same exact design as our Walnut Finished sets with no mounting screw or front sling attachment point . Our guns are converted by qualified gunsmiths with upgraded G2 Fire control , SVD style brake , each gun is hand selected for the conversion process for straightness, good action and nice finish. We do like the features of the Walnut stock set including the adjustable cheek piece . The IWD stock sets were nice but next to impossible to obtain the price we have them listed for is less than the IWD stocked guns were . .


                            Last edited by Atlantic Firearms; 06-29-2014, 7:02 AM.
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                            www.atlanticfirearms.com
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                            • #29
                              Trenchfoot
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 7293

                              Great report. I'm going to be ordering myself a Vepr from Atlantic in a few days

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                              • #30
                                Atlantic Firearms
                                Vendor/Retailer
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 1942

                                FYI , we do try to offer discounts when possible to Cal Guns members on firearms , please email us in advance with your cal guns user name for a price quote.
                                Atlantic Firearms
                                www.atlanticfirearms.com
                                sales@atlanticfirearms.com

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