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  • #31
    hambam105
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2013
    • 7083

    Plastic 11 grain bullet, ha! Everybody knows that anything less than 15 grains of plastic bullet is useless.

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    • #32
      DannyInSoCal
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      • Aug 2010
      • 8271

      As a back up - Try the towel snap technique. Aim for the taint...
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      • #33
        Intimid8tor
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2007
        • 6607

        Originally posted by smle-man
        At short ranges this stuff will penetrate through and through. It loses velocity very quickly and past 50 yards the accuracy is non existent but close up it will kill. Don't screw around with this stuff. They are not like blanks.
        I don't think anyone is saying its not dangerous just that it makes no sense to use it as a HD round.
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        • #34
          smle-man
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2007
          • 10552

          Originally posted by Intimid8tor
          I don't think anyone is saying its not dangerous just that it makes no sense to use it as a HD round.

          Thanks, I posted my comments in the interest of stopping another firearms related tragedy.

          As Sergeant Esterhaus always said, "Let's be careful out there".

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          • #35
            Intimid8tor
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2007
            • 6607

            Originally posted by smle-man
            Thanks, I posted my comments in the interest of stopping another firearms related tragedy.

            As Sergeant Esterhaus always said, "Let's be careful out there".
            I hear you. We're talking about the lack of lethality and someone takes that to mean they are not dangerous and shoots their friend with one. Good to put those disclaimers in there. Same with blanks.
            Starve the beast, move to a free state.

            Bwiese: "You are making the assumption the law is reasonable/has rationale."

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            • #36
              nitroxdiver
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2009
              • 6979

              There's a cool German 7.62 plastic military training round, and requisite replacement bolt carrier group without rollers, available for the HK 91/G3/PTR91 series rifles at Dans ammo. Certainly an interesting collectible, and lethal at close range, but I wouldn't count on it as a SD round, even in a rifle.


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              • #37
                safety-1st
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 1300

                If your intent is not to kill the intruder then a stun gun would be your best bet. Your life and your family's is on the line though.

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                • #38
                  SactoDoug
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                  • Oct 2013
                  • 2268

                  My thought was for my neighbor's well being, not the intruder's.
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                  • #39
                    bigger hammer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 2049

                    Originally posted by smle-man
                    At short ranges this stuff will penetrate through and through. It loses velocity very quickly and past 50 yards the accuracy is non existent but close up it will kill. Don't screw around with this stuff. They are not like blanks.
                    This is a bit off topic and I'm sure that YOU know this, but don't screw around with blanks either. At very short ranges they can kill too.
                    And who comes to our aid in times of peril? Sometimes, it is the police or first responders; other times it is healthcare professionals; and sometimes it is family, friends, or neighbors. Sometimes, it is no one."... - U.S. District Judge Stephen McGlynn.

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                    • #40
                      captbilly
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 836

                      Pretty casual attitude towards human life.

                      Originally posted by valley82
                      Dead intruders don't sue for medical bills...
                      That's true. And dead people can't raise their children, or find a cure for diseases, or do any of the things that the person killing them, because that person felt their life was worth another's, can do. When one even considers killing another person he/she needs to have exhausted all the other possible solutions.

                      This kind of casual attitude towards killing with guns is the one of the reasons anti-gun people are so concerned.

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                      • #41
                        Merc1138
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 19742

                        Originally posted by captbilly
                        That's true. And dead people can't raise their children, or find a cure for diseases, or do any of the things that the person killing them, because that person felt their life was worth another's, can do. When one even considers killing another person he/she needs to have exhausted all the other possible solutions.

                        This kind of casual attitude towards killing with guns is the one of the reasons anti-gun people are so concerned.
                        Sorry, but someone breaking into my home and posing any sort of threat to me has decided that my TV or whatever it was they were trying to steal or do, is worth more than their own life. Those people are not going to cure cancer, likely don't give a damn about their kids if they have any, or anything worthwhile on this planet.

                        Does that mean the focus should be to kill the threat? No, it just happens that shooting a threat dead is an excellent way of quickly stopping a threat. I have no compassion for dirtbags who go out of their way to detrimentally affect others.

                        edit: The train of thought that someone defending themselves against a threat is the one making the decision that someone else's life is meaningless, is one of the bull**** points that gets brought up whenever some sweet little angel who would never harm anyone gets killed by a law abiding citizen in defense. That thinking is wrong. It attempts to put some sort of guilt on the person defending themselves that they could have should have would have used some other option life is sacred blah blah blah. It's bull**** because the attacker is the one who made the decision about their own life to steal a TV, punch someone in the head, rape or even try to murder someone.
                        Last edited by Merc1138; 01-26-2014, 1:02 PM.

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                        • #42
                          smle-man
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10552

                          Originally posted by bigger hammer
                          This is a bit off topic and I'm sure that YOU know this, but don't screw around with blanks either. At very short ranges they can kill too.
                          Indeed, very true. It has happened more than once on movie sets for example.

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                          • #43
                            19K
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 3616

                            Originally posted by captbilly
                            That's true. And dead people can't raise their children, or find a cure for diseases, or do any of the things that the person killing them, because that person felt their life was worth another's, can do. When one even considers killing another person he/she needs to have exhausted all the other possible solutions.

                            This kind of casual attitude towards killing with guns is the one of the reasons anti-gun people are so concerned.
                            Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard. Looks like your house is the place to go to in the middle of the night.

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                            • #44
                              Donk310
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1798

                              WOW! Never seen those before. I wouldn't mind trying them out on the range.
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                              • #45
                                AK4me
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1281

                                Heck no!

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