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  • #46
    THT
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2009
    • 5140

    Originally posted by ifilef
    You invite your own error by purchasing a firearm not on the Roster.

    Hard to believe there are not any 10-rd magazines available as an alternative.
    AFAIK, there aren't any. Part of the draw of the XDm was the relatively high capacity which is why Springfield never bothered making a 10rd magazine for it.
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    • #47
      SocomM4
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 2187

      Originally posted by JDay


      What's to stop a cop from removing the limiter and disposing of it between the time of arrest and your trip to jail?

      Well he would have to find a factory base plate to hold the floor plate on, since the whole point is that the limiter replaces one of the factory parts and not just modifies one.
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      • #48
        KingChiron
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        CGN Contributor
        • Dec 2013
        • 615

        Originally posted by usclee
        Is a magazine with these 10 rd limiters be legal to sell after today?

        Yes, as long as it is "permanently" modified. With those magblocks, as long as you rivet/epoxy the magblock floor plate to the base plate , it's legal. Done this way, you can no longer remove base plate to clean the mag. This is the condition the gun shops sell it as.
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        • #49
          JDay
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          • Nov 2008
          • 19393

          Originally posted by SocomM4
          Well he would have to find a factory base plate to hold the floor plate on, since the whole point is that the limiter replaces one of the factory parts and not just modifies one.
          If you're coming from out of state where you used them as standard capacity magazines you have the parts with you.

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          • #50
            SDM44
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 3858

            Originally posted by JDay
            What's to stop a cop from removing the limiter and disposing of it between the time of arrest and your trip to jail? It'd just be your word against his and you'd have a felony AW charge if he said you had a 30 round magazine in your bullet button equipped rifle.
            Why doesn't he just sprinkle some crack on you and call it a night and haul you away?

            I can see a LEO arresting or confiscating a mag because their own interpretation of it may not be correct to what is actually legal. However, if a LEO went to that much trouble to modify a magazine that they've confiscated only to make you commit a felony, which would seem highly unlikely, then you probably have bigger things to worry about.

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            • #51
              Lives_In_Fresno
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 818

              Originally posted by ifilef
              You invite your own error by purchasing a firearm not on the Roster.

              Hard to believe there are not any 10-rd magazines available as an alternative.
              Not sure why you consider it an error...What I am doing is perfectly fine, was extremely easy to accomplish, and legal.

              I love this gun, and am glad that it is rare in CA. What is the error you refer to?

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              • #52
                BigPimping
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2010
                • 21388

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                • #53
                  ifilef
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 5665

                  Originally posted by THT
                  AFAIK, there aren't any. Part of the draw of the XDm was the relatively high capacity which is why Springfield never bothered making a 10rd magazine for it.
                  And that is one of the reasons it is not on the Roster. Much as we might not like the Roster, or magazine limits, they are the current law in California.

                  You don't like it, challenge in court or elect representatives who feel the same.

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                  • #54
                    ifilef
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 5665

                    Originally posted by KingChiron
                    Yes, as long as it is "permanently" modified. With those magblocks, as long as you rivet/epoxy the magblock floor plate to the base plate , it's legal. Done this way, you can no longer remove base plate to clean the mag. This is the condition the gun shops sell it as.
                    Nice product photo, above.

                    I read somewhere today on one of the manufacturer's websites to use Crazy Glue for baseplates with these limiters.

                    Also, I wonder if these limiters are fully compatible with Pmag M3 Generation.
                    Last edited by ifilef; 01-02-2014, 8:04 PM.

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                    • #55
                      Paperchasin
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 6407

                      Originally posted by ifilef
                      Nice product photo, above.

                      I read somewhere today on one of the manufacturer's websites to use Crazy Glue for baseplates with these limiters.

                      Also, I wonder if these limiters are fully compatible with Pmag M3 Generation.
                      There are newer limiters available for the M3 PMAGS.




                      I posted a very similar thread about this here. Have a look at it.
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                      • #56
                        wobbleside
                        Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 182

                        I'm just going to stick with the reduced capacity factory 10 round pmags for now. No confusion there.

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                        • #57
                          rman
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 2267

                          the limiters are a part of the magazine. it will not work (floorplate will not mount w/o it).

                          replacing the limiter portion with a non-limter baseplate ( manufacturing a "hi-cap), is the same adding a +2 floorplate on a standard 10rnd. that doesn't make 10 rounders illegal because they can be converted to 12 rounders by swapping 1 part.

                          that is my opinion. the law is so ambiguous that no one knows wtf is black and what is white.


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                          • #58
                            ifilef
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 5665

                            Originally posted by Paperchasin
                            There are newer limiters available for the M3 PMAGS.

                            I posted a very similar thread about this here. Have a look at it.
                            I will take a look at it. Thank you.

                            Update: Now that I looked at it, sorry I did. I think that certain people like to overly complicate the issue.
                            Last edited by ifilef; 01-02-2014, 9:28 PM.

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                            • #59
                              ifilef
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 5665

                              Originally posted by Lives_In_Fresno
                              Not sure why you consider it an error...What I am doing is perfectly fine, was extremely easy to accomplish, and legal.

                              I love this gun, and am glad that it is rare in CA. What is the error you refer to?
                              The error was buying a non-rostered gun that does not apparently have 10-rd magazines, and then complaining about it. If it were a rostered gun it would be sold with 10 round magazines.

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                              • #60
                                ifilef
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 5665

                                Originally posted by wobbleside
                                I'm just going to stick with the reduced capacity factory 10 round pmags for now. No confusion there.
                                So, you don't want to look cool, is that it? Wuss, wuss...

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