Tavor optics, what are you going with.

[wobbleside]

not to crap on your tavors or derail the thread, but how is this conceptually different than a f2000 (which i would like to have... very eventually)? is it just ergos?

Left or Right handed bolts available. Actually accepts all STANAG magazines, not just USGI. 9mm and 5.45 conversion kits on the way.
Both are civilian versions of bullpup service rifles in 5.56 NATO. The FS2000 is just older, more bulky and Belgian.
That's kinda like asking what's the difference between a FS2000 and a Styr AUG. Or perhaps the difference between a ACR and SCAR.

[FNH5-7]

I'm gonna go with a TA01NSN since it has fixed BUIS on top for close range. Will pick up an Aimpoint micro t1 next month.

not to crap on your tavors or derail the thread, but how is this conceptually different than a f2000 (which i would like to have... very eventually)? is it just ergos?

In addition to what others have said:

-On the Tavor, mags drop free without any alterations to the magwell unlike the FS2000
-The Tavor IMO seems a hell of a lot more robust and durable than the FS 2000, I didn't get that toy gun feel from it.

Mine is barely on the way but I have held one and shot one. I am not a fanboi and have no reason to stick up for the brand. If mine sucks it sucks and I will not come out defending it simply because I own one.

Based on what I have read, I personally believe the Tavor has the potential to take spot #3 in the list of America's most popular semi automatic sporting rifles.

Left or Right handed bolts available. Actually accepts all STANAG magazines, not just USGI. 9mm and 5.45 conversion kits on the way.
Both are civilian versions of bullpup service rifles in 5.56 NATO. The FS2000 is just older, more bulky and Belgian.
That's kinda like asking what's the difference between a FS2000 and a Styr AUG. Or perhaps the difference between a ACR and SCAR.

The guy asked a legitimate question. Tavor VS FS200 isn't exactly apples to oranges as both rifle are bullpups and actually share things in common. Let's not come off as fanbois

[wobbleside]

not to crap on your tavors or derail the thread, but how is this conceptually different than a f2000 (which i would like to have... very eventually)? is it just ergos?

In addition to what others have said:

-On the Tavor, mags drop free without any alterations to the magwell unlike the FS2000
-The Tavor IMO seems a hell of a lot more robust and durable than the FS 2000, I didn't get that toy gun feel from it.

Mine is barely on the way but I have held one and shot one. I am not a fanboi and have no reason to stick up for the brand. If mine sucks it sucks and I will not come out defending it simply because I own one.

Based on what I have read, I personally believe the Tavor has the potential to take spot #3 in the list of America's most popular semi automatic sporting rifles.



The guy asked a legitimate question. Tavor VS FS200 isn't exactly apples to oranges as both rifle are bullpups and actually share things in common. Let's not come off as fanbois

I've held them both, my Tavor is in jail right now but I've not shot either. They are a very apples to apples comparision which is why I brought up the Steyr Aug and gas piston AR competition rifles. The FS2000 and Tavor have the same goals but the execution of those goals is very different.
Personally I found the Tavor more ergonomically compatible with my body than the FS200.

Personally I'd love to own all 3 and spend some time shooting all 3 for comparison.

[zman]

He said, "not to crap on your tavors or derail the thread", so....

Back to Tavor Optics pr0n

Here's mine.

[nitroxdiver]

Very nice gentleman.


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[someR1]

for now.....vortex strikefire with 3x

[atolax25]

No reason not to put the red dot all the way up front, there's no handguard to throw off the zero like an AR.

-W

Just as long as you leave room for the front BUIS to flip up.

[nitroxdiver]

not to crap on your tavors or derail the thread, but how is this conceptually different than a f2000 (which i would like to have... very eventually)? is it just ergos?

No worries. The FS2000 is a very well made European bullpup.
Conceptually different, I'd say it's not as it too is a bullpup 5.56 civilian semi auto only version of a military issue rifle.

Technical differences are many, from the piston systems used, the bolt and recoil spring assemblies, ejection mechanisms, trigger pack materials, even the way the trigger interacts with the trigger pack. Ergonomics, adjustable gas valve for regular or suppressed use and the omission of said valve on the Tavor, sling mounting options, buis differences, bolt hold open on last round or not, drop free mag or not, ease of changing out muzzle devices. I can go on and on.

They both have their strengths and weaknesses. Neither is superior to the other in my book. There are things I like better about each rifle. Forced to choose between the two, at this point I'd take a Tavor. Much like the never ending SCAR vs ACR or Piston vs DI debate, my best advice to anyone is to try and experience them all. The more experience you get across the board, the more fun this hobby truly is. What you choose to buy with your hard earned cash is a very personal decision, and can only be made by you. It makes no matter what anyone else thinks. Don't go in blindly. Read, handle, rent, make buds with the guy at the range who has something interesting and listen what he has to say about it. Offer him to shoot your stuff and maybe he'll reciprocate so you can get some trigger time on his. If you own cool and exotic stuff, share it with others at the range.

Thanks for reading

Back on topic, the Aimpoint T1/H1 sure looks like a perfect fit n the Tavor. Thanks for the pics guys. Keep them coming and enjoy your rifles.

[jchen76@gmail.com]

Aimpoint Micro, with Hensoldt tank magnifier in rear.

Disclaimer - I live in Nevada.

[General]

This is what I have.

Kinda dated but still highly effective.

[ky2970]

Military Arms Channel has a couple videos on Tim trying to decide which optic to run with for his Tavor. He's tried a AP Comp M4, Elcan SpecterDR, and some others.

[wobbleside]

Military Arms Channel has a couple videos on Tim trying to decide which optic to run with for his Tavor. He's tried a AP Comp M4, Elcan SpecterDR, and some others.

That was interesting, Elcan Specter is $$$$ and heavy.

I'm new to this whole optics and tacticool rifle thing. I'm at work or I'd post some pics but for now I went with Primary Arm's Micro clone. They had a black friday special on it with a AR-15 riser. It absolute cowitnesses with the flip up buis. Zero'd at 25 yards and worked well at 50 and 100.

Once I get my LE 69xx together (need to find a 6920 upper or save a bit more for a 6940 upper sometime next month). I'll probably start saving for an Aimpoint Micro for the Tavor, move the PA Micro to the AR then maybe give an Aimpoint PRO or EOTech a try.

I've only owned rifles with irons or low power 4x or 9x scopes for deer hunting.

[ky2970]

That was interesting, Elcan Specter is $$$$ and heavy.

I'm new to this whole optics and tacticool rifle thing. I'm at work or I'd post some pics but for now I went with Primary Arm's Micro clone. They had a black friday special on it with a AR-15 riser. It absolute cowitnesses with the flip up buis. Zero'd at 25 yards and worked well at 50 and 100.

Once I get my LE 69xx together (need to find a 6920 upper or save a bit more for a 6940 upper sometime next month). I'll probably start saving for an Aimpoint Micro for the Tavor, move the PA Micro to the AR then maybe give an Aimpoint PRO or EOTech a try.

I've only owned rifles with irons or low power 4x or 9x scopes for deer hunting.

Yeah having a service/work rifle is quite a different experience from hunting rifles. Best of luck to your build!

[wobbleside]

Yeah, prior to purchasing the Tavor the only rifles I owned were a nickel plated Winchester pump action .22LR of some variety I can't recall (my dad still has it back home in GA), a Norinco Paratrooper SKS, Russian full-size SKS and a Model 700 in .270 Win for deer hunting. I don't have any of those rifles in my possession anymore. The SKSs are still mine but are stored in GA and the 700 was sold before I moved out here in 2008.

The SKSs would be the closest thing to a service rifle I've ever owned and definitely not modern. They were pretty much shoot tons of surplus ammo, clean and repeat. When I handed them over to my dad to store rather than try to figure out CA's inane gun laws both were still bone stock.

Once a month for ~6 months I spent a few hours at a municiple range shooting the local SWAT teams' P-90s, MP-5s and M4s in 2007 when I was working as an EMT but I had no input on how they were set up as the point of the exercise was to make sure the EMS folks that got certified to be loaned to local PD could secure all of their service weapons.

I decided to go with the cheap PA Micro to find out if I'd even like using something like it before I spent the big bucks on an Aimpoint or EOTech product. Sadly I can't find any good EOTech clones that people say good things about, so if I want to try the EOTech thing I'm probably going to have to buy one.

[atolax25]

For the money, PA optics are fantastic. You won't be disappointed if you decide to buy them.