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  • Flux Capacitor
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 1811

    Was "multi" caliber acceptable during the last AWB

    Quick question for those who remember registering during the last AWB. Was "multi" acceptable for the caliber description?
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    ke6guj
    Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    I tried listing .17-.50 as the caliber and they called me and had me pick a single caliber. I've heard that others did list "multi" and in the end, their registrations say 8888 as the caliber. but in the end, it doesn't matter what caliber the registration says since there is no law that says that you can't ever change it from its original configuration.
    Jack



    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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    • #3
      QuarterBoreGunner
      Administrator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 9389

      Originally posted by ke6guj
      I tried listing .17-.50 as the caliber and they called me and had me pick a single caliber. I've heard that others did list "multi" and in the end, their registrations say 8888 as the caliber. but in the end, it doesn't matter what caliber the registration says since there is no law that says that you can't ever change it from its original configuration.
      This is correct. They also asked for barrel length if I remember correctly; same rule applies - no law saying you can't switch out an AR upper to a longer/shorter barrel length.

      I personally registered 2 complete lowers; I knew they were going to be .223 and I also knew that they were going to be at least 16" in barrel length. So that's what I put. No worries at all.
      /Chris

      I have a perfect Burning Man attendance record: zero.

      You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
      Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
      Like who?
      Farmers.
      Who else?
      Farmers' mums.

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      • #4
        crazychinaman
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 1556

        You stated name ,address,drivers license number ,social security number ,right thumbprint in front of law enforcement officer,They checked it off with signature and date,whom you purchased from and when,serial number ,barrell lenght,caliber,manufacture.

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        • #5
          someR1
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 2932

          Did they actually inspect the weapons ?
          "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
          - George Mason

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          • #6
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by crazychinaman
            You stated name ,address,drivers license number ,social security number ,right thumbprint in front of law enforcement officer,They checked it off with signature and date,whom you purchased from and when,serial number ,barrell lenght,caliber,manufacture.
            not sure what you are smoking but during the last AWB registration period, I dd not need to deal with any LEOs while filling out the form, and I didn't submit a an SSN either. I did the thumbprint myself and mailed the form in.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #7
              ke6guj
              Moderator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Nov 2003
              • 23725

              Originally posted by someR1
              Did they actually inspect the weapons ?
              nobody inspected anything. you just filled out the forms and dropped them off in the mail. the confirmation letter was returned via mail.


              now, if you tried to register something like a Colt M16, or listed SBR dimensions for something, I assume that they would be knocking on your door.
              Jack



              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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              • #8
                someR1
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 2932

                ic....just curious
                "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
                - George Mason

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                • #9
                  crazychinaman
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 1556

                  sory

                  Originally posted by ke6guj
                  not sure what you are smoking but during the last AWB registration period, I dd not need to deal with any LEOs while filling out the form, and I didn't submit a an SSN either. I did the thumbprint myself and mailed the form in.
                  I meant they checked the paperwork to match your drivers license.I meant the 1989 ban,the 2000 was turn in paperwork only with the previos raw number and copy attached.

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                  • #10
                    skyhanger00
                    Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 145

                    So were you able to register stripped or complete lowers as AW during the last ban?
                    I was wondering if that will fly with SB374 this one since in no way does a stripped or complete lower have semiautomatic features (even if only 1% of lowers today are built as rimfire or straight pull).

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                    • #11
                      QuarterBoreGunner
                      Administrator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 9389

                      Originally posted by skyhanger00
                      So were you able to register stripped or complete lowers as AW during the last ban?
                      I was wondering if that will fly with SB374 this one since in no way does a stripped or complete lower have semiautomatic features (even if only 1% of lowers today are built as rimfire or straight pull).
                      My lowers were registered as rifles. And as far as the DOJ was concerned, that's what they were, being banned by name, it wouldn't have mattered if I'd never completed them or not. They were still AWs.
                      /Chris

                      I have a perfect Burning Man attendance record: zero.

                      You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
                      Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
                      Like who?
                      Farmers.
                      Who else?
                      Farmers' mums.

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                      • #12
                        rero360
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 3926

                        Originally posted by skyhanger00
                        So were you able to register stripped or complete lowers as AW during the last ban?
                        I was wondering if that will fly with SB374 this one since in no way does a stripped or complete lower have semiautomatic features (even if only 1% of lowers today are built as rimfire or straight pull).
                        If its not being inspected do you think that really matters? Just put down what you intend on putting on the lower. For an example, I'm hoping to buy a Mega MATEN receiver set when I get home from Afghanistan in Dec. if this crap goes into effect I'll register it with the details of how I intend on building it, even if its not built at that point. Then again, I don't intend on registering anything immediately, unless of course there is a plan to overload the system to prove some point.

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                        • #13
                          SemperFi1775
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 715

                          here's a sample registration form (courtesy of ke6guj) from the last ban:

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                          from sb374:

                          (b) Registrations shall be submitted either electronically, via
                          the Internet utilizing a public-facing application made available by
                          the department, or through a licensed firearms dealer.
                          (c) The registration shall contain a description of the firearm
                          that identifies it uniquely, including all identification marks, the
                          date that the firearm was acquired, the full name and address of the
                          individual from whom, or the business from which, the firearm was
                          acquired, the registrant's full name, address, telephone number, date
                          of birth, sex, height, weight, eye color, hair color, and California
                          driver's license or California identification card number.
                          "What the hell happened to land of the free and home of the brave???"

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                          • #14
                            maffiaavc
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 4

                            They checked it off with signature and date

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                            • #15
                              beanz2
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 12032

                              Originally posted by SemperFi1775

                              from sb374:

                              (b) Registrations shall be submitted either electronically, via
                              the Internet utilizing a public-facing application made available by
                              the department, or through a licensed firearms dealer.
                              (c) The registration shall contain a description of the firearm
                              that identifies it uniquely, including all identification marks, the
                              date that the firearm was acquired, the full name and address of the
                              individual from whom, or the business from which, the firearm was
                              acquired, the registrant's full name, address, telephone number, date
                              of birth, sex, height, weight, eye color, hair color, and California
                              driver's license or California identification card number.
                              Wow, I just realized it requires a CA DL or ID to register. So what will happen to all the military personnel stationed in CA or people here only temporarily for work? Before they can fit a mag lock on their rifles and leave std capacity mags at home, now there is no way they can bring them here.

                              Another way this legislation needs to be litigated!!!
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                              The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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