MAK 90 vs. MAK 90 SPORTER

[Darryl Licht]

Another thread on the proposed AWB got me thinkin'...

The new AWB states:

The bill would require a person who, between January 1, 2001, and December 31, 2013, inclusive, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with the use of a tool, and who, on or after January 1, 2014, possesses that firearm, to register the firearm by July 1, 2015.

So if he purchases out of state and since it isn't actually listed as an AWB, could he bring it in and then register it as a RAW? Provided he install a BB? Wouldn't that suffice, and make him legal? What do you think Librarian?

[Arnelcheeze]

It still says MAK-90 on it, which is on the list (ppendix C)

[Baboosh]

IMO it's floating on the line, like us who had OLL in the early days, 80% pistol builders and other builders.

If questioned make sure you can articulate WHY it is legal. If you have any doubts then don't walk the line.

[Librarian]

Another thread on the proposed AWB got me thinkin'...

The new AWB states:


So if he purchases out of state and since it isn't actually listed as an AWB, could he bring it in and then register it as a RAW? Provided he install a BB? Wouldn't that suffice, and make him legal? What do you think Librarian?

Right now it appears that it's a 'by name' AW. Or, at least, it is arguable that is or is not.

If it IS, then there is no way to 'lawfully possess' it in state unless it were registered in the first round of Roberti-Roos. Since this one still is out of state and new to the OP, probably is not registered to him since 1990 ...

[brianm767]

It still says MAK-90 on it, which is on the list (ppendix C)

Yes it does still say MAK-90, and Yes MAK-90 is on the list, MAK-90 SPORTER is not on the list, thats the problem.

AR-15 says all models. MAK-90 Does not, no court has rulled yet to give us clarification. As Librarian has said, it is arguable either way.

Guns have to be banned by name, exactly,not AR type or AK type or similar name etc..

All I can say is the San Jauquin County DA decided that the guy they had with the MAK-90 SPORTER, was not in possesion of a banned by name rifle, they did not take it to court.

Will the next DA? who knows, it could go either way.

I would not chance it.

[Darryl Licht]

But there was no long gun registration in Cali back then, only DROS, right?

[bohoki]

can someone tell me why a LE6920 banned on list but a SP6920 not on list is ok and everyone accepts it but no one wants to touch a mak90 sporter not on list.

the words mak90 are stamped on it

[Darryl Licht]

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Sometimes I wish I could enlarge a members avatar... I cant see yours very well and I want to enlarge it! Damn! Nice name MonkeyBoy!

[tnlrat37]

Tagged My dad just bought one in Az, I would be very interested as well, however I doubt any ffl would touch it. He says all the guns are going to me in his will I wonder if that's the only way to get it here, I thought there was no chance these comments make me wonder though. I think most of his guns will have to be sold in Az unfortunately, unless I move there which sounds good to me anyway.

[Darryl Licht]

the words mak90 are stamped on it

So is SPORTER...

It is unfortunate, as they're awfully nice examples of the AK family, well made, chrome lined, very accurate (for an AK). I'm just saying this is an uncharted area, and he "might" be able to get away with it, he might not.

OG - If you get it, I sure wouldn't take it to a spot like Lytle Creek where rangers regularly inspect weapons, nor would I take it to an indoor range... perhaps out (Waaaay out) in the high desert (Barstow, 29 Palms) you could shoot it.

Perhaps a CGN member will get popped with one and CG lawyers will help clarify this ambiguous part of the law? Old Gunner, you wanna be a guinea pig?

[bohoki]

mine says mak-90 sporter but the sporter is electro pencil i registered it

the difference is that can you name any other legal gun that has the words of a banned one "completely" and in the new modified name


i remember when tec-9 was banned they came out with tec-dc9 they didnt call it tec-9dc see cause "tec-9" was still together the difference is minor but significant

[tileguy]

COLT SP 6920 ok in ca.
colt LE6920 not

[tileguy]

i just looked one up and the model is actually
COLT LE 6920CA looks like they just added CA

[bohoki]

i just looked one up and the model is actually
COLT LE 6920CA looks like they just added CA

those are weird that they really dont have their actual model stamped on the gun

its like they are either "match target" or "law enforcement"

[Old Gunner]

Thanks Everyone!

Well I am going to buy it, I am just not very sure about bringing it across the border from a free state into Cal.

It just goes to show us all how asinine our states laws and lawmakers are!

Like someone said further up, I was hoping that if I installed a bullet button, and only used the 5 or 10 round mags that I would be OK and slip under the radar. I live out near Landers in the Morongo Valley and it's pretty rural out here. Very gun friendly too with the Marine base pretty close.

I really do not want to be a legal guinea pig as someone said, but I really would feel better if this was at my regular residence and not my weekend home out of state. Plus I'm here 90% of the time and we had a break in a few years back at our weekend cabin in NV. I presently do not leave any firearms there because of this.

If you have any other ideas or suggestions please keep them coming!