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  • shawn3210
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 91

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    Hey guys, just finished my ar-15 build and took it shooting yesterday. Shot pretty good except I was having issues with the casing getting jammed every other mag....annoying problem. I was using pmc 223 ammo from ammo bros. Not sure if it's the ammo or the mag? Any suggestion? I have a jbo gbc.
  • #2
    pwnage
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 127

    Need a little more info.

    When you say "the casing is getting jammed" do you mean that the casing is failing to eject all the way or that the casing isn't even being extracted from the chamber?

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    • #3
      shawn3210
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 91

      it's failing to eject all the way. It would get stuck in the chamber

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      • #4
        Fritz265
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 1523

        Sounds like a gas problem
        "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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        • #5
          pwnage
          Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 127

          Could be a gas problem but maybe not.

          So when the casing gets stuck, is another round fed? Is the casing still in the bolt face when the jam occurs or does the round come loose in the action?

          A couple of suggestions. Cycle the action with some dummy rounds. Go through an entire mag to make sure that all the rounds feed and eject properly. If they do then your extractor is working as it should and as Fritz265 mentioned, you might have a gas problem.

          If its the case that the casing is separated from the bolt face and left in the action/chamber then the extractor is not tight enough to hold on to the round and pull it fully from the chamber.

          You can check for a gas issue by using a different ammo. If your barrel is rated for 5.56 I would try some of that as it has a higher pressure than .223. If that works then ammo was your problem and I would go back to another brand of .223, then again if you can use 5.56 you could just go with that and call it a day.

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          • #6
            Munny$hot
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 3665

            Type of ammo and where is your brass ending up on the ground (barrel 12:00/Butt stock 6:00)?
            Can DI AR's run dirty?

            Palmetto State Armory Suppliers revealed

            "If it ain't stock, it don't belong on your Glock"

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            • #7
              gun toting monkeyboy
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2008
              • 6820

              I know this is a silly question, but how did you have it lubed? You can sometimes get FTE or FTF issues from not having enough lube on the different bearing surfaces. Especially on a new gun that hasn't worn off all of the rough edges yet. Have you tried lubing it up and seeing if that resolves the problem?

              -Mb
              Originally posted by aplinker
              It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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              • #8
                shawn3210
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 91

                Gonna use the 556 federal round this weekend and see how it goes.

                I was using pmc 223 55 grain that I picked up from ammo bros.

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                • #9
                  Fritz265
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1523

                  It's not the ammo
                  "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57131

                    PMC ammo is notably problematic in new guns.
                    Break the gun in with a few hundred rounds of good brass cased 5.56 ammo.
                    Lube it well.
                    After that, it should work with PMC.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                    • #11
                      proraptor
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 2594

                      Pmc is good to go, ive been using it in my ar since the beginning
                      Nothin says hate like a .308

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57131

                        Originally posted by Fritz265
                        It's not the ammo
                        It's the combination of weak ammo AND a new gun.

                        Originally posted by proraptor
                        Pmc is good to go, ive been using it in my ar since the beginning
                        Depends on the gun.
                        You have NOT been using it in the OP's gun since the beginning without problems so you can't really say if his gun works with it or not.
                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                        • #13
                          Fritz265
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1523

                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          It's the combination of weak ammo AND a new gun.



                          Depends on the gun.
                          You have NOT been using it in the OP's gun since the beginning without problems so you can't really say if his gun works with it or not.
                          True. Maybe I'm just spoiled with a Sig
                          "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57131

                            Originally posted by Fritz265
                            True. Maybe I'm just spoiled with a Sig
                            Comparing an AK to an DI AR in it's ability to run crappy ammo is funny.
                            AK's are DESIGNED to run crappy ammo.
                            They have a big gas piston to help them run...
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                            • #15
                              Fritz265
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 1523

                              Sig 516 is an AR. Albeit piston rather than DI
                              "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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