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  • sharxbyte
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 2448

    Idea: Tube-fed AR conversion. (pics added)

    So, I'm brainstorming again, and was wondering what people thought of this.

    The way I envision it (which may or may not work) it would be a relatively simple DIY mod which would not prevent you from using detachable mags in a free state, but would allow you a tube fed AR-15. I have no idea what the capacity would be yet, but ideally the full 10 rounds we're allowed.

    The tube would attach to a rail below the handguard similar to many other RIS accessories, and would be able to utilize both quick release and Allen key bolts. the tube would slide into a hole drilled into the front of the lower receiver, into the magwell, and would join with a sled insert which would position the round to be picked up by the bolt. When the tube is attached, the sled insert would be locked into place. The mechanism would hopefully be able to function with the same reliability of a standard removable magazine.

    if the conversion were to be developed and marketed, a jig would be included(for drilling the hole into the magwell) which would attach to the front takedown pin.

    What are your opinions?

    Is there a market for such a device?

    Any ideas and/or suggestions?

    I may add a specific diagram of the mechanism if there's interest.


    Edit: as for rounded tip ammunition, I'm sure we can sell plastic/rubber "ball" tips to stick to the front of our bullets so they don't blow up in the tube.
    Or, as my brother suggested, insert them so that they "piggyback" at an angle instead of tip-to-primer. This would also allow for a shorter tube, if reliable feeding could be achieved.




    Last edited by sharxbyte; 04-30-2013, 6:54 PM.
    My AR is 7.62x39, so that if/when we get invaded, I can shoot their ammo back at them!
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    MrPlink
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2010
    • 12532

    Spitzer bullets plus tube fed ='s . . . .
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    • #3
      Euphoria526
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 3812

      Boom in the tube. There will be a rise in round nosed .223 rounds!!!!!
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      • #4
        devster55
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 2062

        You would need flat tip bullets of flex tip like the hornadys rds
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          Euphoria526
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 3812

          Tube fed 30-30 ar: now that would be AWESOME
          Originally posted by Jimi Jah
          I punch paper only because it is illegal to punch people.
          Originally posted by elpaisa1
          I think flatulence is a more serious crime. I think it should be a misdemeanor with a 1000 dollar fine or 6 months of jail. It should be a felony if done near an open flame.

          Originally posted by Euphoria526
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          • #6
            sharxbyte
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 2448

            Good point about the boom tube. How common are rounded tip .223/556, and 7.62x39?
            My AR is 7.62x39, so that if/when we get invaded, I can shoot their ammo back at them!
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            Originally posted by Falstaff
            Where is this ammo "Black market" he speaks of? Do they have .223 in stock?
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            • #7
              Californio
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              • Dec 2006
              • 4169

              No pointy bullets in tubes, they hit the primers of the round ahead of them.
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                Euphoria526
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 3812

                From what I know (which isn't much ill admit lol) I've never seen em, but they prob do exist.
                I still would want a 30-30 at tho
                Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                I punch paper only because it is illegal to punch people.
                Originally posted by elpaisa1
                I think flatulence is a more serious crime. I think it should be a misdemeanor with a 1000 dollar fine or 6 months of jail. It should be a felony if done near an open flame.

                Originally posted by Euphoria526
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                • #9
                  zfields
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                  • Aug 2010
                  • 13658

                  I'd rather buy a 336.
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                  • #10
                    TZL
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                    • Jan 2006
                    • 3197

                    I applaud the creativity, but why not just go featureless?

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                    • #11
                      mshill
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                      • Dec 2012
                      • 4418

                      Originally posted by TZL
                      I applaud the creativity, but why not just go featureless?
                      Obviously, looking forward to SB374
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                      • #12
                        barrage
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 3351

                        Originally posted by mshill
                        Obviously, looking forward to SB374
                        Why not just save everyone some time and turn over all your firearms right now? These kinds of workarounds (including "going featureless") seem to me to be indicative of people who are going to do what they're told no matter what happens... which will inevitably be to turn in all your firearms.

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                          Euphoria526
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                          • Jun 2012
                          • 3812

                          Originally posted by zfields
                          I'd rather buy a 336.
                          I'm talking about an auto loading 30-30 rifle.
                          Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                          I punch paper only because it is illegal to punch people.
                          Originally posted by elpaisa1
                          I think flatulence is a more serious crime. I think it should be a misdemeanor with a 1000 dollar fine or 6 months of jail. It should be a felony if done near an open flame.

                          Originally posted by Euphoria526
                          I'm so awesome, I think I'll quote myself

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                          • #14
                            Quiet
                            retired Goon
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 30241

                            Originally posted by sharxbyte
                            I have no idea what the capacity would be yet, but ideally the full 10 rounds we're allowed.
                            OAL of a 5.56x45mm cartridge is approximately 2.26".

                            So, for 10 rounds, you would be looking at an approximately 23-26" tube.

                            (pic from a thread on this topic from about 2-3 years ago)
                            Last edited by Quiet; 04-30-2013, 4:32 PM.
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                              RickRyder
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                              • Feb 2012
                              • 372

                              Last edited by RickRyder; 04-30-2013, 4:50 PM. Reason: typo
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