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  • #16
    Saigon1965
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 17276

    Wow with the bad stuff, all went wrong with this conversion.


    Originally posted by Hkfanatic
    sure vollmer was great if you didint mind not getting your parts back after he did a conversion, or sending him a factory hk91 to have a g3 conversion done (paddle mag,restamp and grenade ring on barrel ) and getting your factory gun back with an FMP bolt and carrier in it, and a converted Full auto to semi trigger pack when you shipped him the gun just the way it was shipped from H&K.

    no thanks.

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    • #17
      Hkfanatic
      Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 336

      it sucked i had to fight with him to get my parts back, i eventually did but from what i hear this happend alot, the rifle has long since been sold and they have shut down op's but it was a hassle, in my opinion the only time vollmers was good is when terry dyer and murray urbach was working for him. thats when some of their best work was made

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      • #18
        Pvt. Cowboy
        Banned
        • Oct 2006
        • 2688

        Originally posted by Hkfanatic
        sure vollmer was great if you didint mind not getting your parts back after he did a conversion, or sending him a factory hk91 to have a g3 conversion done (paddle mag,restamp and grenade ring on barrel ) and getting your factory gun back with an FMP bolt and carrier in it, and a converted Full auto to semi trigger pack when you shipped him the gun just the way it was shipped from H&K.

        no thanks.
        I had a nice SP89 Stretch from FJ Vollmer back in the mid-'90s. A short time later, FJ Vollmer closed down his shop and went back to gold coin collecting. Bought already converted for $2700 and sold a few years later for $4200 after I realized that it was just a big goofy 9mm pistol and got the irrational Hk worship out of my system. I don't miss it a bit, but it was perfect with all Hk Oberndorf/N parts. Some guy in Texas has that custom SP89 now, presumably.

        Kept the Hk91 because it's a monster, but the SP89 had to go.

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        • #19
          Hkfanatic
          Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 336

          i love all of my H&K's, my 89 especially. i sold the vollmer 91 conversion to get a NIB 91 that still sits in my safe, its the only registered weapon i have that never leaves the house the only thing i regret is that i didint get a 93 and 94 before california infringed upon my rights

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          • #20
            Charliegone
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 6099

            Originally posted by Hkfanatic
            let me know if you want to sell that barrel or need help with a build
            Thanks for offer. Can you ask whether using the regular trunnion would work if i just want to use the regular handguard on it (basically it's just going to be a regular hk clone but with a longer barrel).


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            • #21
              Citadelgrad87
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2007
              • 16747

              Originally posted by J_Rock
              In a world of compromises, some people put the bullets in the magazine backwards...

              But it doesn't matter, because our gun is on the cover of the Rainbow Six video games. Look how cool that SEAL coming out of the water looks... If you buy a $2,000 SOCOM, you will be that cool of an operator too. And chicks will dig you.

              At HK, we stuck a piston on an AR15, just like a bunch of other companies have done, dating back to about 1969. However ours is better, because we refuse to sell it to civillians. Because you suck, and we hate you.

              Our XM8 is the greatest rifle ever developed. It may melt, and it doesn't fit any accesories known to man, but that is your fault. If you were a real operator, you would love it. Once again, look at Rainbow Six, that G36 sure is cool isn't it? Yeah, you know you want one.

              And by the way, check out our new HK45. We decided that humans don't need to release the magazine with their thumbs. If you were a really manly teutonic operator, you would be able to reach the controls. Plus we've fired 100,000,000 rounds through one with zero malfunctions, and that was while it was buried in a lake of molten lava, on the moon. If you don't believe us, it is because you aren't a real operator.

              By the way, our cheap, mass-produced, stamped sheet metal guns like the G3 and MP5 are the bestest things ever, and totally worth asinine scalpers prices, but note that cheap, mass-produced, stamped sheet metal guns from other countries are commie garbage. Not that it matters, because you're civilians, so we won't sell them to you anyway. Because you suck, and we hate you, but we know you'll be back. We can beat you down like a trailer park wife, but you'll come back, you always do.

              Buy our stuff.

              Sincerely

              HK Marketing Department
              Wow.

              Anyway, my registered SR9TC fires 10 shot 1 inch groups at 100, and I have hit a manhole cover 20 for 20 at 800 yards.

              It's never jammed or malf'd in any way.

              I love the rifle. I do not subscribe to the HK religeon, but the HK products I have purchased do EXACTLY what I bought them to do.
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              • #22
                Hkfanatic
                Member
                • Mar 2006
                • 336

                the 24 inch heavy barrel will not work with a normal handguard or cocking tube, you have to use a PSG-1 handguard and tube the barrel is too thick. and a front sight tower will not go on either.

                it will press into a normal trunnion though, there is nothing special about that. so if you did a build from scratch wou would need to find some PSG-1 parts

                hope this helps

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                • #23
                  Hkfanatic
                  Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 336

                  Originally posted by fredieusa
                  Fanatic - anywhere you have listed in detail the parts you got, the assembly process - the receiver details ..etc.

                  if you look a page back from that post its got pics of me building it as well as descriptions

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                  • #24
                    FMJBT
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 4888

                    Great job on the PSG-1 HKfanatic!

                    I've been collecting parts for a number of years now to build one up too. My quest for a barrel was a big stopping point. After waiting almost a full year for a Joeken barrel (Doh!), those idiots sent it to the wrong address without signature service required. They refused to send me a replacement, but did offer to sell me another barrel at their cost of $185.00. At that point, I decided to build my own jig for cutting the internal flutes inside the chamber of an aftermarket Mauser barrel. Using a needle file on a sliding carrier, I can cut one flute in about 20 minutes by hand. Time consuming, yes, but AFAIK I am the only one who has ever done it. I'm still waiting on some parts so I can buld mine up and function test the chamber flutes.


                    Picture of a 7.62x39 barrel I fluted for a guy building up an HK to take AK-47 mags.

                    Mine will of course deviate quite a bit from the real PSG-1. I'm not going to use the STANAG scope base, but will weld on a 20 moa base for a Savage 110 long action to the top of the stainless Century receiver. I'm going to build my own free float handguard, so no need for the extended PSG-1 trunnion. Trigger will either be a standard unit either worked over by myself, or sent in to Williams trigger or Bill Springfield. Buttstock will be one I made, or possibly the Magpul PRS stock for the HK. I also made a walnut PSG style grip with a black delrin base years ago for use on a crappy FA-91. The FA-91 was complete junk, but the grip is still OK. I'll probably re-use the delrin base, but will make another walnut grip as my original never fit up as well as I wanted. I'm still working on making some receiver rails from some heavy 1/4" thick steel "T" stock. I had ordered a pair of the ones floating around on the net for $55.00, only to find out when they arrived that they were the sawed off arms from a telescoping stock

                    Minus optics, I hope to have under $1000 invested in the rifle when it is done. Estimated time to completion...... ????????
                    U.S. Navy (Retired) 1994-2015

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                    • #25
                      Hkfanatic
                      Member
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 336

                      thats pretty cool the way you did the fluting i imagine it was very time consumeing, good luck with your build.

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                      • #26
                        QuarterBoreGunner
                        Administrator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 9389

                        That "You suck and we hate you" thing always makes me laugh...
                        /Chris

                        I have a perfect Burning Man attendance record: zero.

                        You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
                        Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
                        Like who?
                        Farmers.
                        Who else?
                        Farmers' mums.

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                        • #27
                          brando
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 3694

                          Ha! You guys are crazy - good work on your builds! Back around 1992 I spent some time in Europe with PSG-1s, even got a tour of the factory in Oberndorf and saw what they did differently with the PSG parts. There was one station where an engineer was testing the composition of the metallurgy on PSG barrels and checking for any non-uniformities. He said they culled ten times as many PSG-1 barrels as G3 barrels.
                          --Brando

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                          • #28
                            air soft rules!
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 52

                            http://www.hkspecialist.net/index.htm they run out of stock alot but keep checking for those hard to find parts for your HK/G3 needs jld had the trunnion extension and the reenforcing rails pretty cheap.
                            insert quirky line or quote here, oh, I got one, "there's a mag in it, and the safety is on".

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                            • #29
                              Hkfanatic
                              Member
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 336

                              it should be noted that the JLD reinforceing rails are not correct they are right for a 21 build but they do not match the psg-1's profile

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                              • #30
                                FMJBT
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 4888

                                Originally posted by Hkfanatic
                                it should be noted that the JLD reinforceing rails are not correct they are right for a 21 build but they do not match the psg-1's profile
                                Absolutely correct. The rails that JLD sells are like the ones I received that were listed as "PSG-1 receiver rails". They are in fact the rails for the HK-21, and are not at all like the PSG-1. They look like the legs from a collapsable stock, cut to length to fit the sides of the receiver. If you see rails for $55.00, chances are pretty good they are not the PSG-1 rails. I've never actually seen genuine HK rails for sale for the PSG-1, only aftermarket rails selling for several hundred dollars.
                                U.S. Navy (Retired) 1994-2015

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