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  • fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
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    • Mar 2008
    • 364

    which 22 conversion?

    If i want to get a 22 conversion for my Ar whats the best way to go? Get a complete upper? Will a Ciener kit work? will it damage my barrel??
    In Loving Memory of Sergeant Marcus Frank. EOW 10/7/07
    I miss you dad
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    rksimple
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2006
    • 6257

    I've fired thousands through my Ciener in both of my ARs. They work well.
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    • #3
      fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
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      • Mar 2008
      • 364

      Will it damage my barrel??
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      • #4
        rksimple
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        • Jan 2006
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        Originally posted by fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
        Will it damage my barrel??
        No.
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        • #5
          RedDawn
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          • Dec 2007
          • 2234

          If you're going to do the conversion kit, Ciener is the way to go.
          I have the air force conversion kit, it's hit or miss and is ammo sensitive.
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          • #6
            apbrian112
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 3279

            or you can wait a couple of months to get spike tacticals new 22 conversion kit. just another option, and one i will be going with once it's released.
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            • #7
              fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
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              • Mar 2008
              • 364

              OK, Im sorry for being so persistant but I know i read somewhere that someone messed up their AR with a ciener kit... or am i imagining things? I just dont want to replace a 300+ barrel on my AR....
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              I miss you dad

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              • #8
                Blacktail 8541
                Senior Member
                • May 2006
                • 1567

                Clean the barrel before you go back to shooting .223. The worst you could get would be a little lead fouling.
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                • #9
                  fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 364

                  and just double checking http://www.22lrconversions.com/ those are the officicial kits right/
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                  • #10
                    adamsreeftank
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 2244

                    It won't hurt your barrel, but shooting soft lead 22s may cause small shavings to build up in the gas block. Unless you are going to dedicate the barrel for 22s, you might want to stick to copper jacketed ammo.

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                    • #11
                      NeoWeird
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 3342

                      The two largest problems with drop in units is:

                      1. Lead can build up in the gas block.

                      2. The twist rate of a .223 barrel will not stabilize a .22 rimfire.

                      In other words, unless it's dedicated, a conversion is not the best way to go. Yes, it WILL work, but there are better options out there.
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                      • #12
                        elSquid
                        In Memoriam
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 11844

                        Originally posted by apbrian112
                        or you can wait a couple of months to get spike tacticals new 22 conversion kit. just another option, and one i will be going with once it's released.
                        Get in line. I paid for mine almost 3 months ago, and I'm still waiting. (sigh)

                        -- Michael

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                        • #13
                          rksimple
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 6257

                          Originally posted by NeoWeird
                          The two largest problems with drop in units is:

                          1. Lead can build up in the gas block.

                          2. The twist rate of a .223 barrel will not stabilize a .22 rimfire.

                          In other words, unless it's dedicated, a conversion is not the best way to go. Yes, it WILL work, but there are better options out there.
                          Lead in the gas block can be cleaned. And after a few thousand rounds, I haven't seen a build up occur.

                          As far as stabilization, do you mean a 22lr will be "overstabilized?" Most 22lr's have a twist rate of 1 in 14 to 16. A 1 in 9 will spin them faster than needed. They will be stabilized and then some.
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                            fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
                            Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 364

                            So if I have a Compass Lake (18" Douglas Heavy Contour Threaded Mid-Length + Gas Tube) will I need to get a seperate barrel as to not ruin that one? Or does it matter? Someone with expertise please tell me
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                            I miss you dad

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                            • #15
                              AJAX22
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                              • May 2006
                              • 14980

                              The best drop in conversion is (in my experiance) the colt factory units.

                              They run very reliably.

                              They can be hard to find and expensive when you do find them, but they are well worth the extra.
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