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  • recshooter
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 725

    10/20 Mags for M1A?

    I know the AR guys can get pseudo hi-cap mags pinned at 10 rds to keep within CA law...

    Are such mags available for the M1A (eg. 10/20)? I would like to purchase some, but I have never even heard these discussed, let alone advertised.

    Anybody have some knowledge on this subject?
  • #2
    renardsubtil
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1659

    I'm not seeing these either, so far in my board searching I've only seen a few instances of people finding generic ones at gun shows. My Google-Fu hasnt turned any up either. Looks like most people would rather a bunch of dependable 10 rd mags wtih mag pullers.

    Personally, I'm kinda new to m1as so I'd rather not have to deal with a LEO giving me grief over a 20 rounder "look alike" mag at my local gun range.
    "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."

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    • #3
      Matt C
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2006
      • 7128

      Originally posted by renardsubtil
      Personally, I'm kinda new to m1as so I'd rather not have to deal with a LEO giving me grief over a 20 rounder "look alike" mag at my local gun range.
      Why would he?!? All my M1a mags are 20 rounders, never had a problem with that...
      I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

      The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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      • #4
        aplinker
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2007
        • 16762

        Originally posted by Blackwater OPS
        Why would he?!? All my M1a mags are 20 rounders, never had a problem with that...
        +1... I have my hi-caps, too, so this isn't really an issue for me...

        No cop would ever care about that, nor should they.

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        • #5
          mltrading
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 1251

          Why mess up the excellent 20-round M14 mags? The USGI M14 mags last almost forever (for casual shooters).

          Let me guess....... you are going to install Troy or Vltor stocks? Or you wanna install flash hider?
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          • #6
            saber
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2003
            • 696

            I'm interested in these also for my M1A simply because I've found that the 20 rounders are easier to insert into the rifle and make sure that they are locked down. I've found that the 20 rounders seem easier to rock into mag well than the 10 rounders. Also, you have more to hold onto when you shoot.

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            • #7
              recshooter
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 725

              Re: everyone who posted a +1 for 20rd M1A mags...ok...I get it...but:

              It is illegal to purchase, import, and transfer hi cap mags in CA. I understand that it is fine to possess them, but to do so the supplier or I would probably be in violation of the law at some point in the transaction. Please correct me if I am wrong?

              I asked about obtaining a 10/20 round mag (and not a reg 20rd) because I like the classic look of the full magazine, and this is a public forum.

              So until some of you guys, who posted about how nice the 20 rd mags are, finally return my hi caps that you borrowed a while ago, or the laws change, I am stuck with with the abbreviated version.

              In the meantime, an easily purchased and readily obtainable 10/20 M1A mag would be something that myself, and likely others, would be interested in ( vendors). Why only hook up the AR guys?

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              • #8
                Spitfire75
                Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 285

                Of course having preban standard-capacity magazines is cool and well and good, but for people who don't have any, I *believe* C-Products is going to tool up for M14/M1A magazines in the near future. Once they have the tooling in place, it won't be long before they start producing 10/20 round magazines, just like they have for the AR. I have a couple of preban 20s that I bought at the swap meet ages ago, when I was a wee lad. But I'm still looking forward to new offerings from companies I know and trust.
                "If they want to live in the Stone Ages, we can surely send them back there."
                - Mr. Burns
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                • #9
                  E Pluribus Unum
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 8097

                  Originally posted by recshooter
                  It is illegal to purchase, import, and transfer hi cap mags in CA.
                  Nope. Here is the law:

                  12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one
                  year or in the state prison:

                  (2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large capacity magazine.

                  Show me where it's illegal to buy one. Show me where it is illegal to find one. Show me where it's illegal to posess one.

                  I'm part of the lucky group that obtained them before the ban so I am free. But had I broken the law in 2001 and illegally imported them I would be immune from prosecution because statute of limitations has expired.
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                  12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

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                  • #10
                    recshooter
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 725

                    Ok EPU, so show me someone who will sell me one?...I know I can have a large cap, but getting one...that is the problem.

                    "Show me where it is illegal to buy one?"

                    Someone would have to expose the mag for sale or give/lend it to me (to paraphrase the law you referenced) for me to get it...which is illegal per the definition you state. Maybe not illegal for me, but for the seller, and I am back where I started with a 10 round mag--no one is going to sell it to me, I can't make one, and I can't import one--stuck.

                    All legal semantics aside, I can only legally get a mag under conditions that have an exceedingly low probability--I find one, or one quantum tunnels into my receiver (but I guess that is the same as finding one). Also, I don't actually know that many shooters, so I don't really even have a chance to try one out for an "extended period of time."

                    For everyone who keeps posting that 10/20 is stupid, I have lots of pre ban 30 rounders and you don't, ha ha--instead help those interested find some 10/20 round mags if you hear about them, post in another thread instead, find a legal loophole, or even better yet just step up and sell me a few, after all, its not illegal to buy one, right?

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                    • #11
                      Ech0Sierra
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 944

                      Arrange with someone in a border state (WA, NV, AZ) to throw a box across state lines.

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                      • #12
                        aplinker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 16762

                        Originally posted by Ech0Sierra
                        Arrange with someone in a border state (WA, NV, AZ) to throw a box across state lines.
                        Importing.

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                        • #13
                          Matt C
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 7128

                          Originally posted by recshooter
                          For everyone who keeps posting that 10/20 is stupid, I have lots of pre ban 30 rounders and you don't, ha ha--instead help those interested find some 10/20 round mags if you hear about them, post in another thread instead, find a legal loophole, or even better yet just step up and sell me a few, after all, its not illegal to buy one, right?
                          I don't think anyone said they were stupid, clarifying that it is certainly ok to use old pre-ban 20 rounders (or legally modified lookalikes) was in response to this statement:
                          Personally, I'm kinda new to m1as so I'd rather not have to deal with a LEO giving me grief over a 20 rounder "look alike" mag at my local gun range.
                          I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

                          The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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                          • #14
                            Prc329
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 5603

                            Since I can't buy any more 20's, I would actually be interested in 10/20 M14 mags. The longer mag is so much easier to get seated in the mag well as well as the rifle just seems to handle better due to the larger mag that can act as a grip (sort of).
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                            • #15
                              Ech0Sierra
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 944

                              Originally posted by uclaplinker
                              Importing.
                              Since the mags are already in the state and they were not brought there by anyone, this is not "importing."

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