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Can I make a rifle out of an AR-15 lower registered as a pistol?

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  • #16
    chillincody
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 2675

    Originally posted by pepper214
    Thanks...damnit. This FFL is a bit of a (deleted). He's not going to go out of his way to comply with CA requirements.
    yea there is alot of FFL like that simple solution Fthem buy from someone else who will deal with us here in CA
    Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

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    • #17
      tatt00edangel
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 707

      Not to jack the thread, But if hypothetically I was able to get an 80% lower, Can I buy a pistol upper now? Do I need to register it as a pistol? Is the single shot sled just a pinned mag or a piece to install?

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      • #18
        Atlantaboi2012
        Banned
        • Aug 2011
        • 581

        One of the most informative post I have seen in a long while.

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        • #19
          NoNOS67
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 2161

          Originally posted by tatt00edangel
          Not to jack the thread, But if hypothetically I was able to get an 80% lower, Can I buy a pistol upper now? Do I need to register it as a pistol? Is the single shot sled just a pinned mag or a piece to install?
          That depends; did you build a pistol lower, or a rifle lower?

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          • #20
            THEJAPINO
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 745

            I'm pretty sure that in CA, you can't buy a pistol lower unless you're a LEO. Stripped lowers are DROS'd as 'long gun' in which they'll need to have a 16" barrel, stock, and an OAL of over 30".

            I think to get an AR pistol in our great state, you'll either have to get a complete SSE from a gun store or PPT, receive one as a gift in CA compliant form from a father/mother or son/daughter from another state (search interstate intrafamilial transfer), or homebuild one from an 80% receiver.

            Originally posted by tatt00edangel
            Not to jack the thread, But if hypothetically I was able to get an 80% lower, Can I buy a pistol upper now? Do I need to register it as a pistol? Is the single shot sled just a pinned mag or a piece to install?
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            • #21
              winnre
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2010
              • 9214

              Wait, I have two stripped JD lowers, can I build them into pistols???
              "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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              • #22
                winnre
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 9214

                Wait, I have two stripped JD lowers, can I build them into pistols???
                "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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                • #23
                  THEJAPINO
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 745

                  Federally, you would be ok but in Kalifornia...they are long gun lowers in the eyes of the DOJ.

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                  Last edited by THEJAPINO; 12-23-2012, 12:18 PM.
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                  • #24
                    ChaneRZ
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 2041

                    No they were drosd as long gun.

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                    • #25
                      car15
                      Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 494

                      You can go back and forth from pistol to rifle as long as you never have the stock and < 16 in barrel on at the same time.

                      If it was dros as a rifle then always a rile.

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                      • #26
                        Grumpyoldretiredcop
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 6437

                        Originally posted by car15
                        You can go back and forth from pistol to rifle as long as you never have the stock and < 16 in barrel on at the same time.

                        If it was dros as a rifle then always a rile.
                        Absolutely incorrect in California. Stop giving advice and learn CA law before your advice gets someone arrested.

                        In terms of Federal law, this would be permissible. In terms of California law, this is NOT permissible. In CA, "once a rifle, always a rifle", it doesn't matter whether the receiver was DROSed as a pistol, created from an 80% receiver, or whatever other method was used. The firearm CANNOT be reconfigured as a pistol once it has been configured as a rifle.
                        Last edited by Grumpyoldretiredcop; 12-23-2012, 1:22 PM.
                        I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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                        • #27
                          winnre
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 9214

                          Then can I re-dros the lower s a pistol, or when I buy it do I have to request it be drosed as a pistol?
                          "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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                          • #28
                            AK all day
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 2977

                            tagged
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                            • #29
                              ke6guj
                              Moderator
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 23725

                              Originally posted by winnre
                              Then can I re-dros the lower s a pistol, or when I buy it do I have to request it be drosed as a pistol?
                              it would be assumed that that once it has been DROSed as a long gun, that CA would consider it to always be a rifle, even if you reDROS it as a pistol at a later date.

                              And you can't DROS a stripped lower as a pistol, unless you are roster-exempt. It must be assembled as a pistol before it is DROSed to you.
                              Jack



                              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                              • #30
                                Jpach
                                Veteran Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 4707

                                All I have to say to the OP is......How is the government gonna know if you changed it from one to the other anyways?
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